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  nntp.aoie.org not working? alanpd2012@gmail.com - 2016-01-02 05:58 -0800
    Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2016-01-02 14:02 +0000
    Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> - 2016-01-02 14:30 +0000
    Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2016-01-02 14:56 +0000
    Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-02 16:00 +0000
      Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-02 17:17 +0000
        Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> - 2016-01-02 18:19 +0000
          Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-02 19:02 +0000
            Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2016-01-03 13:09 +0000
              Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> - 2016-01-03 14:17 +0000
                Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? "Bill (Adopt)" <adopt@billsimpson.com> - 2016-01-04 12:42 +0000
              Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2016-01-03 14:18 +0000
          Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-02 19:15 +0000
    Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> - 2016-01-04 18:10 +0000
      Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2016-01-04 18:41 +0000
        Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2016-01-05 12:18 +0000
        Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-11 07:56 +0000
          Re: nntp.aoie.org not working? Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 11:16 +0000

#13591 — nntp.aoie.org not working?

After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this group to change to nntp.aoie.org which has worked well for me until today. I now get the error "Connection to server failed - Connection timed out" and the page http://www.aoie.org/ goes to a "Placeholder" page saying that the owqners have not written any other pages.

Does anyone know what has happened and if it is permanent? If so can anyone suggest an alternative?

I hate having to use google groups on a PC to post this.

Alan

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#13592

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 05:58:29 -0800 (PST)
alanpd2012@gmail.com wrote:

> After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this group to change to nntp.aoie.org which has worked well for me until today. I now get the error "Connection to server failed - Connection timed out" and the page http://www.aoie.org/ goes to a "Placeholder" page saying that the owqners have not written any other pages.
> 
> Does anyone know what has happened and if it is permanent? If so can anyone suggest an alternative?
> 
> I hate having to use google groups on a PC to post this.
> 
> Alan

look for Eternal September

-- 
W J G

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#13593

In article
<ad976bca-1ecd-42af-8d03-2820921e20d1@googlegroups.com>,
   <alanpd2012@gmail.com> wrote:
> After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this
> group to change to nntp.aoie.org which has worked well
> for me until today. I now get the error "Connection to
> server failed - Connection timed out" and the page
> http://www.aoie.org/ goes to a "Placeholder" page saying
> that the owqners have not written any other pages.

> Does anyone know what has happened and if it is
> permanent? If so can anyone suggest an alternative?

I have just downloaded from news.aoie.org (not nntp...) with
no difficulty.

> I hate having to use google groups on a PC to post this.

> Alan

-- 
Russell
Russell Hafter
E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#13594

In article <ad976bca-1ecd-42af-8d03-2820921e20d1@googlegroups.com>,
   <alanpd2012@gmail.com> wrote:
> After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this group to change to
> nntp.aoie.org which has worked well for me until today. I now get the
> error "Connection to server failed - Connection timed out" and the page
> http://www.aoie.org/ goes to a "Placeholder" page saying that the
> owqners have not written any other pages.

Yes - it's down here too.

> Does anyone know what has happened and if it is permanent? If so can
> anyone suggest an alternative?

I have Eternal September too - as it does some groups I want which aoie
doesn't carry.

My newsreader visits both in turn - so if one isn't working the other
probably is. But an outage such as this rarely lasts long.

-- 
*Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines?

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#13595

On 2 Jan 2016, alanpd2012@gmail.com wrote:

> After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this group to change
> to nntp.aoie.org which has worked well for me until today. I now get
> the error "Connection to server failed - Connection timed out"

If this appears on the NG, it means that aioe is still working, for me.

Tony

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#13596

On 2 Jan 2016, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2016, alanpd2012@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this group to
> > change to nntp.aoie.org which has worked well for me until today. I
> > now get the error "Connection to server failed - Connection timed
> > out"
>
> If this appears on the NG, it means that aioe is still working, for
> me.

But, an hour later, I now see 'Connection to server failed. Connection
refused' when attempting to send via aioe.

This sent using Eternal September.

Tony

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#13597

In article <0cd3bb3b55.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2016, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 2 Jan 2016, alanpd2012@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this
> > > group to change to nntp.aoie.org which has worked well
> > > for me until today. I now get the error "Connection to
> > > server failed - Connection timed out"

> > If this appears on the NG, it means that aioe is still
> > working, for me.

> But, an hour later, I now see 'Connection to server
> failed. Connection refused' when attempting to send via
> aioe.

I assume everyone /is/ using aioe.org, not aoie.org as per
the title??

www.aioe.org states "Server is under maintenacnce, will be
back in a few hours"

There do appear to to be two different servers:-

pinging nntp.aioe.org  gives the IP address 94.75.214.90,
while news.aioe.org  is at 94.75.214.39, so perhaps both
servers are under maintenance, with nntp having gone off
line first, and news later?

-- 
Russell
Russell Hafter
E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#13598

On 2 Jan 2016, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

> www.aioe.org states "Server is under maintenacnce, will be
> back in a few hours"

Here, http://www.aioe.org/ leads to

   Placeholder page

   The owner of this web site has not put up any web pages yet. Please
   come back later.

   You should replace this page with your own web pages as soon as
   possible.

   [snip]

suggesting that the site has been hacked, as happened a few years ago.

Tony

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#13601

In article <9a801e3c55.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2016, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 2 Jan 2016, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > www.aioe.org states "Server is under maintenacnce, will be back in a
> > > few hours"
> >
> > Here, http://www.aioe.org/ leads to
> >
> >    Placeholder page

> [snip]

> Today I see "Server is under maintenacnce, will be back in a few hours",
> but the news-server seems to be working again (if you see this).

> Tony

Thanks for that. I've just been using it so we will see how long it stays
up. Thanks to those who suggested "Eternal-september" but will stay as I
am for the moment until I have more time as it saves altering things.

Best wishes
Alan

-- 
alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk
alan.dawes@riscos.org
Using an ARMX6

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#13604

In article <553c28f244alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Dawes
<alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
>    <9a801e3c55.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony
>    Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 2 Jan 2016, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > On 2 Jan 2016, Russell Hafter News
> > > <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote:

> > > > www.aioe.org states "Server is under maintenacnce,
> > > > will be back in a few hours"

> > > Here, http://www.aioe.org/ leads to

> > >    Placeholder page

> > [snip]

> > Today I see "Server is under maintenacnce, will be back
> > in a few hours", but the news-server seems to be
> > working again (if you see this).

> > Tony

> Thanks for that. I've just been using it so we will see
> how long it stays up. Thanks to those who suggested
> "Eternal-september" but will stay as I am for the moment
> until I have more time as it saves altering things.

Strangely, the service from aioe does seem to vary from
place to place.

I seem to remember Dave Plowman finding it as good as
Eternal-september, and you would appear to have been
satified with it to up to now, while druck claims that it
has been awful for him.

My own experience with it has been nowhere near as bad as
druck's, but I do not find it as unproblematic as
Eternal-september either.

I routinely fetch news from Eternal-september, but fetch
from aioe once every few days too, to ensure that its config
file stays up to date.

aioe also still carries the old argonet groups, unlike
Eternal-september, but nothing has been posted there for
yonks, apart from the auto-posted faqs, which turn up each
month...

-- 
Russell
Russell Hafter
E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#13610

In article <553c2f37c9see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote:
> In article <553c28f244alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Dawes
> <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article
> >    <9a801e3c55.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony
> >    Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On 2 Jan 2016, Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 2 Jan 2016, Russell Hafter News
> > > > <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote:

> > > > > www.aioe.org states "Server is under maintenacnce,
> > > > > will be back in a few hours"

> > > > Here, http://www.aioe.org/ leads to

> > > >    Placeholder page

> > > [snip]

> > > Today I see "Server is under maintenacnce, will be back
> > > in a few hours", but the news-server seems to be
> > > working again (if you see this).

> > > Tony

> > Thanks for that. I've just been using it so we will see
> > how long it stays up. Thanks to those who suggested
> > "Eternal-september" but will stay as I am for the moment
> > until I have more time as it saves altering things.

> Strangely, the service from aioe does seem to vary from
> place to place.

As I understand it, among the aioe staff are 
interested Uni Profs, Uni Support Staff, Grads 
and Undergrads as well as otherwise engaged 
students, therefore it's possible that the 
speed of response to overloads, tech downtime 
and attacks may have the very occasional seasonal 
and/or academic calendar dependency.

[..]
> aioe also still carries the old argonet groups, unlike
> Eternal-september, but nothing has been posted there for
> yonks, apart from the auto-posted faqs, which turn up each
> month...

On behalf of Prof Rosemary and myself, may we thank you 
for noticing...! :))

..btw, after twenty years and more the argonet.*.* 
ngs, including argonet.zfc, are still active and may 
be used at any time, by anyone, with a wish to do so.  

The 'Force' and the Wookie(s), are still among us.  

Happy New Year to everyone!  :))

Bill ZFC

-- 
Adoption  InterLink  UK with  -=-         http://www.billsimpson.com/
Domain Host Orpheus Internet  -=-  http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/

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#13605

In article <553c28f244alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>,
   Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Today I see "Server is under maintenacnce, will be back in a few hours",
> > but the news-server seems to be working again (if you see this).

> > Tony

> Thanks for that. I've just been using it so we will see how long it stays
> up. Thanks to those who suggested "Eternal-september" but will stay as I
> am for the moment until I have more time as it saves altering things.

Since you're using Newshound as I am, you don't really need to alter
things as such just add a second file to Config for Eternal September and
it will visit both. It won't download duplicate messages either. If one or
the other is down you will get an error message - but it will still use
the working one. You do need to visit the September site to arrange a user
name and password.

Here's mine as a guide - hope I've given the correct info as it was done
quite some time ago. ;-)

(File name I've used is nesGroup)

# NewsHound news server group file
# Automatically Created on Mon Aug 28 18:28:43 2000
#
# Rule file name:
Global
# News server hostname:
news.eternal-september.org:8119,<username>,<password>
# Last new groups time
NEWGROUPS	160103 140353
# Newsgroups:
comp.sys.acorn.apps	19223
<etc>

#

-- 
*What am I? Flypaper for freaks!?

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#13599

On 02/01/2016 18:19, Russell Hafter News wrote:
> www.aioe.org states "Server is under maintenacnce, will be
> back in a few hours"

And down again in another few. Their uptime is abysmal, I switched to 
news.eternal-september.org years ago, and haven't noticed more than a 
few minutes of downtime since.

---druck

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#13611

In message <ad976bca-1ecd-42af-8d03-2820921e20d1@googlegroups.com>
          alanpd2012@gmail.com wrote:

>After BT stopped news feeds, it was suggested on this group to change
>to nntp. aoie.org which has worked well for me until today. I now get
>the error "Connection to server failed - Connection timed out" and the
>page http://www.aoie.org/ goes to a "Placeholder" page saying that the
>owqners have not written any other pages.

If you see this then aoie is working to send news.
>
>Does anyone know what has happened and if it is permanent? If so can
>anyone  suggest an alternative?
>
>I hate having to use google groups on a PC to post this.
>
>Alan


-- 
Kev Wells
http://kevsoft.co.uk/
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!

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#13612

In article <2a52c83c55.Kevin@talktalk.net>,
   Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> If you see this then aoie is working to send news.

Indeed but over the last couple of days it moans about 'argonet.zfc not
being hosted on this server', something it has not done since I first used
aioe back in 2009.  Not that it matters as argonet.zfc isn't something I
use but I do wonder why the change has occurred.


Alan

[Snip]

-- 
Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.

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#13614

In article <553ccb32daalan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
   Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <2a52c83c55.Kevin@talktalk.net>,
>    Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> wrote:

> [Snip]

> > If you see this then aoie is working to send news.

> Indeed but over the last couple of days it moans about 'argonet.zfc not
> being hosted on this server', something it has not done since I first
> used aioe back in 2009.  Not that it matters as argonet.zfc isn't
> something I use but I do wonder why the change has occurred.

The same here. It looks like the site was hacked and they have had to
rebuild their database and have (as yet?) only reinstated groups that have
any traffic. Apart from the monthly faq the last thread I saw on
argonet.zfc was last January about Parcelforce. I would leave it for a few
days and if you still want it make a request for it to be reinstated.

At least www.aioe.org website is now back on line and not a place holder
page.

On 2nd Jan when aioe stopped working and I started this thread, I googled
for nntp.aioe.org and was asked if I meant a different combination of
those letters I think oaie and the first hit was for a site with that name
which seemed similar to the www.aioe.org site. It no longer does this so I
wonder if it was due to an attack on aioe to get people to give their
details to this other "spam" site.

Alan

-- 
alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk
alan.dawes@riscos.org
Using an ARMX6

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#13624

In article <553ccb32daalan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
   Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> Not that it matters as argonet.zfc isn't something I
> use but I do wonder why the change has occurred.

Probably insufficient traffic to justify the presence.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#13626

In article <55402aff9espam.pling@btinternet.com>,
   spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In article <553ccb32daalan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
>    Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > Not that it matters as argonet.zfc isn't something I
> > use but I do wonder why the change has occurred.

> Probably insufficient traffic to justify the presence.

That does seem the likely reason.  Shame for those with ancient memories of
it when there was traffic but I was never one of those anyway.  Sic transit
etc.

Alan

-- 
Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.

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