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| Started by | Peter <peternhopkins@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2012-04-21 09:27 -0700 |
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What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter <peternhopkins@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-21 09:27 -0700
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days "Chris Bell (News)" <news@highpath.net> - 2012-04-21 17:49 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 18:24 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 18:25 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 20:34 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 21:08 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 22:36 +0200
Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 22:10 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-22 16:41 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-22 18:19 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-24 14:43 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-24 17:54 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-24 19:40 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-24 19:47 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-24 23:32 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-25 11:18 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-24 22:30 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-24 23:46 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 06:37 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 12:26 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-25 12:53 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 15:20 +0200
Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 18:43 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-04-25 22:08 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-26 12:56 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-26 14:42 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-26 14:50 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-26 22:24 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 01:17 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 03:03 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 10:11 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 11:32 +0200
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 12:06 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-27 15:34 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2012-04-25 13:36 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-25 14:54 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-25 18:07 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-25 18:10 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-26 14:19 +0100
Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-04-26 19:52 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 22:36 +0200
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 10:35 -0700
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Leighton <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-23 10:15 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2012-09-13 00:10 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-13 22:02 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-09-14 08:09 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days JV <groups@wellowvillage.co.uk> - 2012-09-14 10:17 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days "Bill (Adopt)" <adopt@billsimpson.com> - 2012-09-14 14:28 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-14 23:53 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> - 2012-09-14 16:41 +0200
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-09-15 09:22 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-15 09:47 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Mark Wiggin <mark.wiggin@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-09-23 10:57 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-23 11:14 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 22:44 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-22 09:10 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 22:18 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 00:50 +0200
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 06:13 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-22 13:02 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 16:50 +0000
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 18:54 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 22:00 +0000
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 10:05 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-04-22 21:17 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-22 14:03 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> - 2012-04-22 22:03 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-04-23 11:32 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-04-24 13:33 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 12:28 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-25 12:46 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 13:05 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-04-25 15:05 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 15:49 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-04-25 16:34 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 17:08 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 18:48 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-25 19:02 +0100
Re: What do people use RISCOS for these days Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-04-23 12:37 +0100
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| From | Peter <peternhopkins@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 09:27 -0700 |
| Subject | What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <924c8fc7-844f-4f8f-8c25-ccf50e5a214c@dc2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> |
Hi folks. I grew up from the days of a Solidisk expanded BBC B upto a Riscpc 600 running RO4.37 I think it was with the irlam i??? audio/ video sampler. I moved away from the RO platform due to the poor web browsers and weak video. I now use a Windows Pc which can record HD material from satellite, an imac, and a netbook running Ubuntu. I still use Ovation as my preferred word processor on the Pc and BBC basic for windows on both ubuntu and windows for running home written programs that started life back on the BBC B. I still keep looking at this and the hardware forum to see whats going on and got to wondering what RO users use their machines for and if they are still their primary computers. Peter Hopkins
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| From | "Chris Bell (News)" <news@highpath.net> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 17:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5283fae1d7news@highpath.net> |
| In reply to | #5016 |
Peter <peternhopkins@hotmail.com> wrote: >I still keep looking at this and the hardware forum to see whats going > on and got to wondering what RO users use their machines for and if > they are still their primary computers. Yes - 99% of everything, both personal and business. The only thing I ever use M$ for is buying things online with a plastic card - and I can often be heard screaming! Chris Bell
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 18:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5283fe1938dave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5017 |
In article <5283fae1d7news@highpath.net>, Chris Bell (News) <news@highpath.net> wrote: > Peter <peternhopkins@hotmail.com> wrote: > >I still keep looking at this and the hardware forum to see whats going > > on and got to wondering what RO users use their machines for and if > > they are still their primary computers. > Yes - 99% of everything, both personal and business. The only thing I > ever use M$ for is buying things online with a plastic card - and I can > often be heard screaming! > Chris Bell You'd scream a hell of a lot more doing online shopping with a RISC OS browser. I know I did. Dave Now a number of the RO fraternity will exit the woodwork and shout, but I do all my online shopping, banking etc using RO. Bully for you, and carry on regardless, but for many of the sites *I* use, JS is a must, otherwise I just waste time looking and not being able to do the payment business. D. -- Dave Triffid
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| From | Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 18:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7533fe8352.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5016 |
On 21 Apr 2012 Peter <peternhopkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks. I grew up from the days of a Solidisk expanded BBC B upto a
> Riscpc 600 running RO4.37 I think it was with the irlam i??? audio/
> video sampler. I moved away from the RO platform due to the poor web
> browsers and weak video. I now use a Windows Pc which can record HD
> material from satellite, an imac, and a netbook running Ubuntu.
> I still use Ovation as my preferred word processor on the Pc and BBC
> basic for windows on both ubuntu and windows for running home written
> programs that started life back on the BBC B.
> I still keep looking at this and the hardware forum to see whats going
> on and got to wondering what RO users use their machines for and if
> they are still their primary computers.
Well, for one person definitely the primary computer:
Nearly all DTP and word-processing using OPro and to a lesser extent
EasiWriter; letters, business following being branch secretary of a
charity. I have to export files to Windows for this latter, as people
can't manage without Word or Excel. Word files are made in EasiWriter
and exported to Windows either in Word format or as rtf (I think the
latter works marginally better). Excel files are made in a RISC OS
database and converted via csv to LibreOffice in Windows and exported
as Excel.
All e-mailing and usenet (MPro and NetFetch, far better than anything
I've seen on Windows).
All database work (DataPower).
Most spreadsheet work (Fireworkz Pro, which can import Excel files).
A good 75% of web-browsing using NetSurf. The other 25% NetSurf fails
with, so I have to use Windows Firefox.
All text editing, using StrongED, and a limited amount of HTML editing
using this also.
Most printing. I have a new printer, which took about 2 minutes to set
up in RISC OS, and a good half-hour on Windows, mostly waiting for
something to happen.
Oh, and playing Scrabble against the computer.
The only thing I find more frustrating on RISC OS than on Windows is
cataloguing and management of photos.
The main reason why I like RISC OS is that it does what I tell it to
do, and doesn't think it knows better than I do what I want to do.
Small example: I did try editing Word files in LibreOffice, and it
kept on dictating to me how it thought I should format the text.
EasiWriter on the other hand obeys me nicely. And don't talk to me
about the Windows filing system. In RISC OS it's obvious where a file
went to, less so in Windows unless you're very clever.
Oscar Wilde: "When other people agree with me, I know I'm wrong".
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 20:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <52840a0949Spambin@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5019 |
In article <7533fe8352.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > The only thing I find more frustrating on RISC OS than on Windows is > cataloguing and management of photos. I do like !Pic_Index -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
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| From | Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 21:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e1260d8452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5024 |
On 21 Apr 2012 Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <7533fe8352.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
> Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> The only thing I find more frustrating on RISC OS than on Windows is
>> cataloguing and management of photos.
> I do like !Pic_Index
Unfortunately ir won't run on this ARMini. Alignment exceptions on:
error message. AEs off: total machine lockup :-)
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 22:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <52840fb92cUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5025 |
In article <e1260d8452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > Unfortunately ir won't run on this ARMini. Alignment exceptions on: > error message. AEs off: total machine lockup :-) As it's nearly all BASIC, I'm surprised! John -- John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject! Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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| From | Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-21 22:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <4fca128452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5026 |
On 21 Apr 2012 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <e1260d8452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
> Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Unfortunately ir won't run on this ARMini. Alignment exceptions on:
>> error message. AEs off: total machine lockup :-)
> As it's nearly all BASIC, I'm surprised!
So it is! However, it still won't behave for me. This is all beyond my
knowledge, but digging around in its innards, I discover that running
the app rdjpgcom in the Jpeg directory seems to disagree with the
ARMini in that it stiffs everything till I do alt-break. Also the
TestAlt utility gives;
21 Apr 22:00:51 000 80000002: Error from (unknown): Internal error:
abort on data transfer at &FC050CF0
*where
Address FC050CF0 is at offset 000079C4 in module FileSwitch
*
No idea if any of this is useful information! Anyone else got in
running on an ARMini?
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-22 16:41 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <5284787b45basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
| In reply to | #5028 |
In article <4fca128452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > On 21 Apr 2012 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <e1260d8452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young > > <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Unfortunately ir won't run on this ARMini. Alignment exceptions > >> on: error message. AEs off: total machine lockup :-) > > As it's nearly all BASIC, I'm surprised! > So it is! However, it still won't behave for me. This is all beyond > my knowledge, but digging around in its innards, I discover that > running the app rdjpgcom in the Jpeg directory seems to disagree > with the ARMini in that it stiffs everything till I do alt-break. > Also the TestAlt utility gives; > 21 Apr 22:00:51 000 80000002: Error from (unknown): Internal error: > abort on data transfer at &FC050CF0 > *where Address FC050CF0 is at offset 000079C4 in module FileSwitch * > No idea if any of this is useful information! Anyone else got in > running on an ARMini? I confirm it fails on my BB -xM. Pic_Index uses InterGif, version 6.11. Unfortunately it still fails even using the newer module 6.18 released by Martin Wurthner. As you've discovered Peter Pic_Index uses other modules which may be causing problems. If I get time I will do more research - I also use this brilliant utility and it would be nice if it could be made to work on BB/ARMini. Regards Richard -- Richard Ashbery Wakefield 2012 - Saturday 28th April http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk
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| From | Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-22 18:19 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <5284817205basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
| In reply to | #5045 |
In article <5284787b45basura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote: > In article <4fca128452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young > <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > > On 21 Apr 2012 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > In article <e1260d8452.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter > > > Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > > >> Unfortunately ir won't run on this ARMini. Alignment > > >> exceptions on: error message. AEs off: total machine lockup > > >> :-) > > > As it's nearly all BASIC, I'm surprised! > > So it is! However, it still won't behave for me. This is all > > beyond my knowledge, but digging around in its innards, I > > discover that running the app rdjpgcom in the Jpeg directory > > seems to disagree with the ARMini in that it stiffs everything > > till I do alt-break. Also the TestAlt utility gives; > > 21 Apr 22:00:51 000 80000002: Error from (unknown): Internal > > error: abort on data transfer at &FC050CF0 > > *where Address FC050CF0 is at offset 000079C4 in module > > FileSwitch * I get marginally different results but Pic_Index failure still points to FileSwitch problems........ There is a difference in the BB FileSwitch module compared with the Iyonix........ BB (RISC OS 5.19) FileSwitch version 2.74 (27 Nov 2011) versus Iyonix (RISC OS 5.16) FileSwitch 2.67 (15 June 2009). Is this likely to be the problem? Richard -- Richard Ashbery Wakefield 2012 - Saturday 28th April http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk
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| From | Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 14:43 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <52857562e9chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> |
| In reply to | #5052 |
In article <5284817205basura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote: > > > So it is! However, it still won't behave for me. This is all > > > beyond my knowledge, but digging around in its innards, I > > > discover that running the app rdjpgcom in the Jpeg directory > > > seems to disagree with the ARMini in that it stiffs everything > > > till I do alt-break. Also the TestAlt utility gives; Just seen this, so apologies if I have the wrong end of the stick. Are you sure the rdjpgcom utility is ARM v7 compatible? I have had to recompile the whole IJG suite of programs for use on the ARMini. I might have a recompiled version of rdjpgcom on the hard drive somewhere, although as I had no need for that utility, I might not have (a) done it or (b) kept it. -- Chris Johnson
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| From | Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 17:54 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <528586e6f4basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
| In reply to | #5099 |
In article <52857562e9chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>, Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote: > In article <5284817205basura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery > <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote: > > > > So it is! However, it still won't behave for me. This is all > > > > beyond my knowledge, but digging around in its innards, I > > > > discover that running the app rdjpgcom in the Jpeg directory > > > > seems to disagree with the ARMini in that it stiffs > > > > everything till I do alt-break. Also the TestAlt utility > > > > gives; This was attributed to Peter Young not me. I entered the discussion because I also use Pic_Index - it would be nice if it worked on the Beagleboard/ARMini. > Just seen this, so apologies if I have the wrong end of the stick. > Are you sure the rdjpgcom utility is ARM v7 compatible? I have had > to recompile the whole IJG suite of programs for use on the ARMini. > I might have a recompiled version of rdjpgcom on the hard drive > somewhere, although as I had no need for that utility, I might not > have (a) done it or (b) kept it. Chris So far I have substituted InterGif (6.18 instead of 6.11) and your jpegtran module into Pic_Index but the main error still points to a FilerSwitch problem as indicated by Where. The Pic_Index author, John Williams kindly got back to me but without a BB I suspect he will find troubleshooting pretty difficult - we are reasonably certain it is a bad support module(s) as Pic_Index is predominantly written in BASIC. It would be nice to eliminate rdjpgcom so if you can find a BB compatible copy that could be useful. If I remove rdjpgcom I still get the FilerSwitch error but occurs after a subscript out-of-range error at line 2265. Perhaps this is the effect of removing rdjpgcom but truthfully I have no idea. All the best Richard -- Richard Ashbery Wakefield 2012 - Saturday 28th April http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 19:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <52858b1a3fUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5101 |
Pic_Index relies upon:
The JPEG Group's jpegtran and rdjpgcom, intergif, png2spr, and the
two utilities imgsize and spravg2 written by Rick Murray specially and
exclusively for Pic_Index.
It also uses the utilities SetOSVer and TestAlt, the latter only being used
to start up in a debug mode where logging is extended.
I suggest that each of these utilities can be tested on the BB individually
to find which are incompatible.
The bespoke utilities Rick contributed could be tested by examining the
BASIC calling them now the BASIC is available un-encrypted. Or, I'm sure if
Rick was informed of the peculiar requirements of the BB, he would
recompile the sources accordingly.
I would be happy to host a BB-compatible version on my site in place of the
version currently there.
John
--
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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| From | Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 19:47 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <5285912cc5chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> |
| In reply to | #5103 |
In article <52858b1a3fUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams (News) <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > The JPEG Group's jpegtran and rdjpgcom, intergif, png2spr, > and the two utilities imgsize and spravg2 written by Rick Murray > specially and exclusively for Pic_Index. > It also uses the utilities SetOSVer and TestAlt, the latter only > being used to start up in a debug mode where logging is extended. > I suggest that each of these utilities can be tested on the BB > individually to find which are incompatible. I could certainly download PIc_Index and have a play. Just commenting on the above. There are ARMv7 versions of jpegtran and rdjpgcom available. I think Martin Wuerthner has produced an ARMv7 intergif. I should be wary of assuming png2spr is ARMv7 friendly at the moment. Source code is available I think so in principle a recompile should fix, but (casting mind back some time) there is assembler as well as C. The assembler part might be a lot more work. Not sure about the latter utilities - anything in pure basic should be ok, although that depends on the author following the SWI api etc exactly. -- Chris Johnson
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| From | Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 23:32 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <abdca58552.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5103 |
On 24 Apr 2012 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Pic_Index relies upon:
> The JPEG Group's jpegtran and rdjpgcom, intergif, png2spr, and the
> two utilities imgsize and spravg2 written by Rick Murray specially and
> exclusively for Pic_Index.
> It also uses the utilities SetOSVer and TestAlt, the latter only being used
> to start up in a debug mode where logging is extended.
> I suggest that each of these utilities can be tested on the BB individually
> to find which are incompatible.
> The bespoke utilities Rick contributed could be tested by examining the
> BASIC calling them now the BASIC is available un-encrypted. Or, I'm sure if
> Rick was informed of the peculiar requirements of the BB, he would
> recompile the sources accordingly.
> I would be happy to host a BB-compatible version on my site in place of the
> version currently there.
Please feel free to send anything to me for testing. I'd really like
to use this app.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-25 11:18 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <5285e6687fbasura@invalid.addr.uk> |
| In reply to | #5109 |
In article <abdca58552.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > On 24 Apr 2012 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Pic_Index relies upon: > > The JPEG Group's jpegtran and rdjpgcom, intergif, > > png2spr, and the two utilities imgsize and spravg2 written by > > Rick Murray specially and exclusively for Pic_Index. > > It also uses the utilities SetOSVer and TestAlt, the latter only > > being used to start up in a debug mode where logging is extended. > > I suggest that each of these utilities can be tested on the BB > > individually to find which are incompatible. > > The bespoke utilities Rick contributed could be tested by > > examining the BASIC calling them now the BASIC is available > > un-encrypted. Or, I'm sure if Rick was informed of the peculiar > > requirements of the BB, he would recompile the sources > > accordingly. > > I would be happy to host a BB-compatible version on my site in > > place of the version currently there. > Please feel free to send anything to me for testing. I'd really > like to use this app. Likewise - if I can help with any testing then add my name to the list. My thanks to all those who are investigating the issue. Regards Richard
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 22:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <mpro.m306ee0490m6o01it.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #5101 |
On 24 Apr, Richard Ashbery wrote in message
<528586e6f4basura@invalid.addr.uk>:
> Chris So far I have substituted InterGif (6.18 instead of 6.11) and your
> jpegtran module into Pic_Index but the main error still points to a
> FilerSwitch problem as indicated by Where. The Pic_Index author, John
> Williams kindly got back to me but without a BB I suspect he will find
> troubleshooting pretty difficult - we are reasonably certain it is a bad
> support module(s) as Pic_Index is predominantly written in BASIC.
FileSwitch? Ah.
I see PicIndex is using an old version of DrWimp, which IIRC had 'issues'
with its use of OS_GBPB on systems that didn't return sequential context
values (Chris is, I believe, the closest we have to an expert on this).
This was why LaBella and Calibre stopped working on the Beagleboard --
Fat32FS certainly does *not* return sequential contexts (which the PRMs
clearly state that it's entitled not to do if it so chooses).
It might be worth looking at a DrWimp upgrade.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
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| From | Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2012-04-24 23:46 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <5285a70f91chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> |
| In reply to | #5108 |
In article <mpro.m306ee0490m6o01it.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > It might be worth looking at a DrWimp upgrade. Indeed. In the DrWimp library there were also some fixes for other things such as dynamic areas in high memory Having looked at the app as I downloaded it today, there are several support utilities included that are definitely not ARMv7 compatible. Even the little utility TestAlt raises a fileswitch error, due to its use of a multiple register load with the ^ suffix when returning. The intergif utility supplied causes a total meltdown. I guess the first action would be to replace all these utilities with the latest versions. I will try to get latest versions of the various utilities and try again tomorrow. -- Chris Johnson
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-25 06:37 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <almarsoft.698567710195858550@news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #5110 |
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:46:05 +0100, Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote: > I will try to get latest versions of the various utilities and try > again tomorrow. If I remember correctly, I tried to write my two bits to be "safe" (both are written in assembler). Let me know if this is not the case. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-25 12:26 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pic_Index. Was: What do people use RISCOS for these days |
| Message-ID | <5285e734c8UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #5108 |
In article <mpro.m306ee0490m6o01it.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > It might be worth looking at a DrWimp upgrade. OK - I can do that myself. John -- John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject! Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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