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  Quickie question - car radio [OT] Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-19 02:21 +0100
    Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-02-19 17:12 +1300
      Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-02-19 10:33 +0000
    Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-02-19 10:02 +0000
      Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-19 18:40 +0100
    Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-19 11:44 +0000
    Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-02-19 12:05 +0000
    Re: Quickie question - car radio [OT] Paul Shayler <g6tsf@amsat.org> - 2012-02-20 18:50 +0000

#3697 — Quickie question - car radio [OT]

Hi,

I'll keep this brief. :-) Just got a new(ish) car, a Citroen C1 (and it 
seems to have fairly impressive fuel economy!).
Anyway, the garage fitted a radio as it didn't have one originally. 
CD/USB/radio/aux, some sort of Pioneer thing. Not bad, but not only does 
it not work when the key is turned to accessory (it only works when the 
key is turned all the way on), but it also forgets all the settings and 
upon turning the car on it enters setup mode and, a little later, 
defaults to a very annoying "demo" mode where everything flashes a LOT. 
The current work-around is to disconnect the front face and just leave 
it off. ;-)

I thought these things used a fairly standardised plug these days, so 
I'm not certain why it isn't working as it should. Surely it should be 
powered on both "on" and "accessory", and somewhere there ought to be a 
trickle-feed that is always on so you don't have to set it up all the 
time (or is there an internal battery that needs to be charged perhaps?).

Can anybody give me some pointers as to what I should look for to 
correct this?


Thanks.


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#3698

In message <4f404e98$0$12487$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
          Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'll keep this brief. :-) Just got a new(ish) car, a Citroen C1 (and it 
> seems to have fairly impressive fuel economy!).
> Anyway, the garage fitted a radio as it didn't have one originally. 
> CD/USB/radio/aux, some sort of Pioneer thing. Not bad, but not only does 
> it not work when the key is turned to accessory (it only works when the 
> key is turned all the way on), but it also forgets all the settings and 
> upon turning the car on it enters setup mode and, a little later, 
> defaults to a very annoying "demo" mode where everything flashes a LOT. 
> The current work-around is to disconnect the front face and just leave 
> it off. ;-)
> 
> I thought these things used a fairly standardised plug these days, so 
> I'm not certain why it isn't working as it should. Surely it should be 
> powered on both "on" and "accessory", and somewhere there ought to be a 
> trickle-feed that is always on so you don't have to set it up all the 
> time (or is there an internal battery that needs to be charged perhaps?).
> 
> Can anybody give me some pointers as to what I should look for to 
> correct this?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Rick.

Sounds a bit like the radio hasn't been powered by the accessory power
at all.
My similar unit is still annoying though, -it can still turn on and off
again in the transition from Ignition to accessory.
I think a separate power switch would be best, it allows you to leave
the music going for someone in the car without leaving the keys for 
them to drive away before you get back also. (-:
The obvious problem is the risk of inadvertantly leaving it turned on
and flattening your battery. Maybe a blinking led that comes on when
the key is off.
I had to disconnect my alarm system, as I use a bike mostly, and it
was making the battery looked stuffed, but a year or so later and 
I'm still using the same battery.

My USB Panasonic plays AAC WMA MP3, does the Pioneer play AAC?
I think WMA is being dropped by a lot of portable players now.
I have had many troubles with mp3 files over the years whereas
none with Vorbis files.

Our local RadioNZ site offers Vorbis or MP3 as program downloads
which I hope is a growing trend.

Ron M.

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#3700

In message <e8c5c76352.beeb@ron1954.woosh.co.nz>
          Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> wrote:

> In message <4f404e98$0$12487$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
>           Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'll keep this brief. :-) Just got a new(ish) car, a Citroen C1
> > (and it  seems to have fairly impressive fuel economy!).
>
[snip]

> Our local RadioNZ site offers Vorbis or MP3 as program downloads
> which I hope is a growing trend.
> 

Does the Radio station provide a - Internet Voris output - that works
with RISC OS?


-- 
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK

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#3699

On 19/02/2012 01:21, Rick Murray wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'll keep this brief. :-) Just got a new(ish) car, a Citroen C1 (and it
> seems to have fairly impressive fuel economy!).

NO! This is really taking the piss out of the entire newsgroup system.

Take it elsewhere.

---druck

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#3720

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:02:21 +0000, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

> NO! This is really taking the piss out of the entire newsgroup 
system.

Given the breadth of knowledge regarding the... um... heating methods 
[*], I figured to take a chance for a quick and concise reply.
Which I received.

I apologise for being an asshole, and I wish to thank those who 
replied. I'll look into the suggestions soon.


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - once upon a time we could have said "want a heater? buy a PC!" ;-)

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#3703

In article <4f404e98$0$12487$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick
Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I thought these things used a fairly standardised plug these days, so
> I'm not certain why it isn't working as it should. Surely it should
> be powered on both "on" and "accessory", and somewhere there ought
> to be a trickle-feed that is always on so you don't have to set it
> up all the time (or is there an internal battery that needs to be
> charged perhaps?).

        When I had a Citroen, in the fusebox there was a fuse which you
could put in two positions. In one of them the accessories were powered
up all the time, and in the other they were only powered up when the
ignition was on.

        The radio has two power inputs. One powers the radio, and the
other powers the memory. The latter of course has to be permanently on.
It sounds as though on your radio they are connected together, so if
the power goes off it loses the memory too. If you can swap the fuse
over to "permanently powered, it should solve your problem.

        Alan Griffin

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#3705

It's been wired incorrectly. Radios have two power feeds - one permanently
live for the memory etc - and one switched via the accessory feed from the
ignition switch. It sounds like yours had both feeds from the ignition
circuit.

Nothing unusual there - most garages haven't a clue about electrics. Even
more so with electronics. Rather a problem given how prevalent they are on
modern cars.

However, you really should post this sort of thing to the likes of
<uk.rec.cars.maintenance>

-- 
*Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#3746

On 19/02/2012 01:21, Rick Murray wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'll keep this brief. :-) Just got a new(ish) car, a Citroen C1 (and it
> seems to have fairly impressive fuel economy!).
> Anyway, the garage fitted a radio as it didn't have one originally.
> CD/USB/radio/aux, some sort of Pioneer thing. Not bad, but not only does
> it not work when the key is turned to accessory (it only works when the
> key is turned all the way on), but it also forgets all the settings and
> upon turning the car on it enters setup mode and, a little later,
> defaults to a very annoying "demo" mode where everything flashes a LOT.
> The current work-around is to disconnect the front face and just leave
> it off. ;-)
>
> I thought these things used a fairly standardised plug these days, so
> I'm not certain why it isn't working as it should. Surely it should be
> powered on both "on" and "accessory", and somewhere there ought to be a
> trickle-feed that is always on so you don't have to set it up all the
> time (or is there an internal battery that needs to be charged perhaps?).
>
> Can anybody give me some pointers as to what I should look for to
> correct this?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Rick.

The connections from the car to radio ar not correct. The are various 
ways of connecting the power, such that it will work as required. Take
the car back and get them to connect it properly and free of charge!
They are responsible for connecting it the wrong way so they should
fix it.

Regards, Paul S.

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