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  OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-15 15:55 +0000
    Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-15 18:23 +0000
      Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-15 19:03 +0000
        Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-01-15 20:13 +0000
          Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-15 21:41 +0000
            Re: OtherDevs for Simtec trevj <trevj@cwazy.co.uk> - 2012-01-18 02:15 -0800
              Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-18 19:35 +0000
                Re: OtherDevs for Simtec trevj <trevj@cwazy.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 03:28 -0800
                  Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-21 22:43 +0000
                    Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-02 18:50 +0000
                      Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-02 23:21 +0000
                        Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 12:14 +0000
                          Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 13:56 +0000
                          Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 18:24 +0000
                            Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-02-04 10:33 +0000
                              Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 17:30 +0000
                      Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 11:51 +0000
                        Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 15:00 +0000
                          Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 15:48 +0000
                            Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 17:01 +0000
            Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-01-18 16:22 +0000
    Re: OtherDevs for Simtec Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-01-16 21:04 +0000

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#3323 — OtherDevs for Simtec

Hi all,

Is there a definite list of OtherDevs details for the Simtec USB  MassFS app?

I recently bought some of the flash drives fro Richard Torrens. At first they
didn't work with my Simtec Unipod on the RiscPC but I ferreted around in my
files & discovered my OtherDevs file wasn't up to date. I had some other sets
of details from various sources, sorted & coalesced them into one file,
weeding out the duplicates. (What a time consuming chore). However, the
drives then worked perfectly.

I now have an OthereDevs file of 103 entries!!!

The list at   http://www.riscos.info/index.php/MassFS_OtherDevs_entries
which I think is maintained by Steve Potts has only about 37

The page at RiscInfo  file:///IDEFS%3A%3Ah4.%24/USBbits/STD/Devs/DevsRscInf
    has a very limited number & must be well out of date.

The URL in the MassFS help file (for creating new details) gives page not
found.
    http://www.stdevel.co.uk/massfs.html)

I think CJE keep a list as well because I was given the OtherDevs details
when I purchased something from them.

Using *USBDevices from a Task Window I was able to get the Vendor ID &
Product ID for another pen drive I had & made the details for it. ( The flags
for pen drives appear to be   =LR_T or  =LR  or  =L  or  =LRq  so it didn't
take long to get a working model).

So now I have a ne OtherDevs definition but not quite sure where to send it.
or if anyone cares.

Any thoughts out there?

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3325

Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a definite list of OtherDevs details for the Simtec USB  MassFS
> app?

Not AFAIK.

> I now have an OthereDevs file of 103 entries!!!
> 
> The list at   http://www.riscos.info/index.php/MassFS_OtherDevs_entries
> which I think is maintained by Steve Potts has only about 37

I don't think it's maintained by anyone.  It's a wiki - feel free to add to
it.  That was my reason for creating it, because there was no other
comparable resource.

Theo

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#3326

In article <hUj*SzmXt@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
   Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Is there a definite list of OtherDevs details for the Simtec USB  MassFS
> > app?

> Not AFAIK.

> > I now have an OthereDevs file of 103 entries!!!
> > 
> > The list at   http://www.riscos.info/index.php/MassFS_OtherDevs_entries
> > which I think is maintained by Steve Potts has only about 37

> I don't think it's maintained by anyone.  It's a wiki - feel free to add to
> it.  That was my reason for creating it, because there was no other
> comparable resource.

Thanks for that. As yet, I hav no idea how to add my stuff to the wiki but
I'll investigate. Is there an idiots guide for doing this.

Yours in ignorance,

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3327

On 15 Jan, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5252130ed1cvjazz@waitrose.com>:

> In article <hUj*SzmXt@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
>    Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I don't think it's maintained by anyone.  It's a wiki - feel free to add
> > to it.  That was my reason for creating it, because there was no other
> > comparable resource.
> 
> Thanks for that. As yet, I hav no idea how to add my stuff to the wiki but
> I'll investigate. Is there an idiots guide for doing this.

  http://www.riscos.info/index.php/Site_Help_Wanted

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England             Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
                                             Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/           http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/

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#3330

In article <mpro.lxuw6l0j19a4w01ph.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
   Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 15 Jan, Chris Newman wrote in message
>     <5252130ed1cvjazz@waitrose.com>:

> > In article <hUj*SzmXt@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> >    Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think it's maintained by anyone.  It's a wiki - feel free to add
> > > to it.  That was my reason for creating it, because there was no other
> > > comparable resource.
> > 
> > Thanks for that. As yet, I hav no idea how to add my stuff to the wiki but
> > I'll investigate. Is there an idiots guide for doing this.

>   http://www.riscos.info/index.php/Site_Help_Wanted

Thanks Steve. I'll get to it as soon as I have a bit of time. Looks fairly
straightforward but if there are any pitfalls I'll be sure to find 'em. I
wouldn't say I was lacking in confidence but.........

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3361

You've been busy!

I took the liberty of adding HTML <pre> tags, so faffing around with
spaces is no longer needed:
http://www.riscos.info/index.php?title=MassFS_OtherDevs_entries&diff=prev&oldid=5698

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#3368

In article
<be3b356c-fb61-43ab-987b-c05d3d8bd235@v14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
   trevj <trevj@cwazy.co.uk> wrote:
> You've been busy!

> I took the liberty of adding HTML <pre> tags, so faffing around with
> spaces is no longer needed:
> http://www.riscos.info/index.php?title=MassFS_OtherDevs_entries&diff=prev&oldid=5698

Oooh! Thanks for that. I tried searching the MediaWiki handbook to find out
how to do pre tags but couldn't see it. Just came up with the space idea.
Just as well as what I know about HTML could be written on the back of a
stamp with room to spare.

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3372

On Jan 18, 7:35 pm, Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> Oooh! Thanks for that. I tried searching the MediaWiki handbook to find out
> how to do pre tags but couldn't see it. Just came up with the space idea.
> Just as well as what I know about HTML could be written on the back of a
> stamp with room to spare.

There's some info here
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting#HTML_tags
but it's fairly scattered, so locating it isn't easy.

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#3394

In article <a70c48af-719f-4869-bd58-86ef62435473@f1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
   trevj <trevj@cwazy.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 7:35 pm, Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > Oooh! Thanks for that. I tried searching the MediaWiki handbook to find out
> > how to do pre tags but couldn't see it. Just came up with the space idea.
> > Just as well as what I know about HTML could be written on the back of a
> > stamp with room to spare.

> There's some info here
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting#HTML_tags
> but it's fairly scattered, so locating it isn't easy.


Ah! Now I understand. Thanks again. The list looks pretty good now.

As Fred Bambrough pointed out, there may now be some doubles in the list
which could be pruned but I haven't time at the moment to check it out. That
doesn't seem to matter too much as even on my slow & ancient RiscPC, MassFS
interrogates the file so quickly there is no appreciable wait.

Cheers,

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3494

Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote on Jan.15:
>> Is there a definite list of OtherDevs details for the Simtec USB  MassFS
>> app?  I now have an OtherDevs file of 103 entries!!!
>> The list at   http://www.riscos.info/index.php/MassFS_OtherDevs_entries
>> which I think is maintained by Steve Potts has only about 37

Theo Markettos wrote on 15 Jan:
> I don't think it's maintained by anyone.  It's a wiki - feel free to add to
> it.  That was my reason for creating it, because there was no other
> comparable resource.

Chris Newman wrote on 21 Jan, having added his other 100 entries:
> The list looks pretty good now.
> As Fred Bambrough pointed out, there may now be some doubles in the list
> which could be pruned but I haven't time at the moment to check it out. That
> doesn't seem to matter too much as even on my slow & ancient RiscPC, MassFS
> interrogates the file so quickly there is no appreciable wait.

Well done, Chris!  I'll prod Matt at STD and Simtec:  they could at 
least update their Unipod and MassFS support pages (last updated years 
ago, apparently) to point to this wiki.

Any chance one of our wiki cognoscenti could add a way of downloading 
the list as a file?  Because Netsurf cut-and-paste is fiddly 
(Select-All selects all the surrounding text as well as what's in the 
panel we want; Select-click at top and Adjust-click at bottom doesn't 
work; the final character refuses to get selected by any means).

The file (if zipped) would presumably carry a datestamp as a useful 
indication of when it was last revised, so that the user can compare 
it to the one already in use.


-- 
Jim Nagel                        www.archivemag.co.uk
>> "from" address is genuine but will change.  website has current one.
See you at SW show?   www.riscos-swshow.co.uk   Feb 25 Saturday

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#3496

In article <4ff9565b52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:


> Well done, Chris!  I'll prod Matt at STD and Simtec:  they could at 
> least update their Unipod and MassFS support pages (last updated years 
> ago, apparently) to point to this wiki.

> Any chance one of our wiki cognoscenti could add a way of downloading 
> the list as a file?  Because Netsurf cut-and-paste is fiddly 
> (Select-All selects all the surrounding text as well as what's in the 
> panel we want; Select-click at top and Adjust-click at bottom doesn't 
> work; the final character refuses to get selected by any means).

> The file (if zipped) would presumably carry a datestamp as a useful 
> indication of when it was last revised, so that the user can compare 
> it to the one already in use.

Easiest way is, from Netsurf, export the page as a text file & save it
somewhere, highlight & delete the bits from the top & bottom, leaving only
the actual Devs entries. Find where yours are stored (usually !MassFS in
!Boot.Resources. Good plan to save a copy of that somewhere in case things go
wrong.) Remove the devs entries you already have as they are all in the new
one you just downloaded, then copy & paste in the new ones. If you double
click on MassFS it should re-run it so the new devs are seen without having
to re-start your computer.
Good luck,

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3507

On 2 Feb 2012, Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

[snip]

> ... Remove the devs entries you already have as they are all in the
> new one you just downloaded

The user may have added his own enties to OtherDevs, so that they will
not necessarily be in the downloaded version.

Tony

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#3511

Tony Moore  wrote on 3 Feb:

> On 2 Feb 2012, Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>> ... Remove the devs entries you already have as they are all in the
>> new one you just downloaded

> The user may have added his own enties to OtherDevs, so that they will
> not necessarily be in the downloaded version.

Sounds like we need somebody to write a bit of PHP or something to run 
on the download site:
   -- invites you to drop your present Otherdevs file here
   -- it adds anything new to the server's Otherdevs file, weeds out 
duplicates, maybe adds comment to identify the contributor(s)
   -- download new consolidated Otherdevs file



-- 
Jim Nagel                        www.archivemag.co.uk
>> "from" address is genuine but will change.  website has current one.
See you at SW show?   www.riscos-swshow.co.uk   Feb 25 Saturday

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#3515

In article <d588b65b52.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2012, Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> [snip]

> > ... Remove the devs entries you already have as they are all
> > in the new one you just downloaded

> The user may have added his own enties to OtherDevs, so that
> they will not necessarily be in the downloaded version.

Yes, I have added at least half a dozen in the last year or two,
but gave up trying to pass them to STD when they evidently lost
interest or departed our scene or whatever ....

Does Chris fancy extending his list?


Brian.

-- 
______________________________________________________________

Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK  
______________________________________________________________

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#3522

On 3 Feb, Brian Carroll wrote in message
    <525bd86021bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>:
 
> Yes, I have added at least half a dozen in the last year or two, but gave
> up trying to pass them to STD when they evidently lost interest or
> departed our scene or whatever ....
> 
> Does Chris fancy extending his list?

"Chris's List" is on the Wiki, so you could just add them directly -- that's
the whole point.

:-)

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England             Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
                                             Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/           http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/

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#3531

In article <mpro.lyv6n100p6uls01ki.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
   Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 3 Feb, Brian Carroll wrote in message
>     <525bd86021bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>:
>  
> > Yes, I have added at least half a dozen in the last year or two, but gave
> > up trying to pass them to STD when they evidently lost interest or
> > departed our scene or whatever ....
> > 
> > Does Chris fancy extending his list?

> "Chris's List" is on the Wiki, so you could just add them directly -- that's
> the whole point.

Blimey, beginning to sound like Schindler's list. What have I spawned?
It would be great if anyone who has a devs file that works & is not on the
list could add it. The more the merrier. It would also be helpful if they
could post on the News/Mail groups to let all know then we could keep our
OtherDevs file at the cutting edge, so to speak.
Yours, listing to starboard (or perhaps reaching for the port....)

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3506

In article <4ff9565b52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Any chance one of our wiki cognoscenti could add a way of downloading 
> the list as a file?  Because Netsurf cut-and-paste is fiddly 
> (Select-All selects all the surrounding text as well as what's in the 
> panel we want; Select-click at top and Adjust-click at bottom doesn't 
> work; the final character refuses to get selected by any means).

Selecting and copy any text displayed in Netsurf is easy - just drag and
drop.

In Netsurf all you need to do is left click on the first character and
keep the button held down whilst you drag to the bottom of the text you
want to copy. Release the button and the selected text remains selected.
Now over the selected text, left click and hold down and drag to the
folder where the selected text to be saved. If you want to deselect any
text before saving or find you've missed something out then right click
and drag to deselect/select those bits.

Alan

-- 
alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk
alan.dawes@riscos.org
Using an Acorn RiscPC

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#3524

In article <525bb46f58alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>,
   Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4ff9565b52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
>    Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> > Any chance one of our wiki cognoscenti could add a way of downloading 
> > the list as a file?  Because Netsurf cut-and-paste is fiddly 
> > (Select-All selects all the surrounding text as well as what's in the 
> > panel we want; Select-click at top and Adjust-click at bottom doesn't 
> > work; the final character refuses to get selected by any means).

> Selecting and copy any text displayed in Netsurf is easy - just drag and
> drop.

> In Netsurf all you need to do is left click on the first character and
> keep the button held down whilst you drag to the bottom of the text you
> want to copy. Release the button and the selected text remains selected.

That doesn't happen here. If I left click, I get a little red icon of a hand
but can't do anything with it. Have I got my netsurf set incorrectly?
(version r13408 on RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3526

In article <525c499423cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
   Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <525bb46f58alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>,
>    Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <4ff9565b52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
> >    Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Any chance one of our wiki cognoscenti could add a way of
> > > downloading the list as a file?  Because Netsurf cut-and-paste is
> > > fiddly (Select-All selects all the surrounding text as well as
> > > what's in the panel we want; Select-click at top and Adjust-click
> > > at bottom doesn't work; the final character refuses to get selected
> > > by any means).

> > Selecting and copy any text displayed in Netsurf is easy - just drag
> > and drop.

> > In Netsurf all you need to do is left click on the first character and
> > keep the button held down whilst you drag to the bottom of the text
> > you want to copy. Release the button and the selected text remains
> > selected.

> That doesn't happen here. If I left click, I get a little red icon of a
> hand but can't do anything with it. Have I got my netsurf set
> incorrectly? (version r13408 on RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39

Are you clicking exactly on a character? - I get a hand if the click is
not on a text character. (ver 2.8 RiscPC SA ROS v.4.02 and ver.2.7
Beagleboard-xm ROS v.5.18)

Alan

-- 
alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk
alan.dawes@riscos.org
Using an Acorn RiscPC

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#3529

In article <525c4dfd4balan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>,
   Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> > > Selecting and copy any text displayed in Netsurf is easy - just drag
> > > and drop.

> > > In Netsurf all you need to do is left click on the first character and
> > > keep the button held down whilst you drag to the bottom of the text
> > > you want to copy. Release the button and the selected text remains
> > > selected.

> > That doesn't happen here. If I left click, I get a little red icon of a
> > hand but can't do anything with it. Have I got my netsurf set
> > incorrectly? (version r13408 on RiscPC 700  Adjust 4.39

> Are you clicking exactly on a character? - I get a hand if the click is
> not on a text character. (ver 2.8 RiscPC SA ROS v.4.02 and ver.2.7
> Beagleboard-xm ROS v.5.18)

Ah! That does the trick. Well done. Thank you. I'd never sussed that out
before.
Yours, terminally confused,

-- 
Chris Newman

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