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Re: Moving ISP

Subject Re: Moving ISP
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
From Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com>
Date 2012-09-10 17:39 +0100
Message-ID <d0ac1acd52.Paul@btinternet.com> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <52ca6478dfdave@davenoise.co.uk> <bb7d69ca52.chris@o2.co.uk> <csam66c9a4cc52.Bryn@yo.rk> <a666aacc52.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> <52ccf24548alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>

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In message <52ccf24548alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk>
          Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <a666aacc52.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net>,
>    Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
>> Reply-To: Brian@brianhowlett.me.uk

>> On 9 Sep, Bryn Evans wrote:

>>> If BT has provided "Fibre to the Cabinet" in your area, then your
>>> existing Router will not notice or require any change. The only
>>> difference will be the received speed you get. Mine went from 2mbits
>>> to 12/13 Mbits.

>> FTTC does require new kit, which will be installed by an Openreach
>> engineer. You're thinking of ADSL2+.

> I think you may be talking about something different. In my area (Ilford)
> the worn out copper cabling from the exchange to the local boxes was
> causing problems so BT has replaced this by fibre optic cable (ie "fibre
> to the box") any interfacing between the fibre optic cable and the copper
> to the houses is done in the box - the only thing that users notice is
> much faster speeds (11/12 Mbits in my case) no new equipment or contract
> required. In my area BT are also installing fibre optic to the telegraph
> pole which I believe will require new equipment but will give a very much
> faster speed at a higher tarif.

> Alan

If you sign up for BT infinity then you will have two boxes, a modem 
and a router (BT's Home Hub). What you end up with is Fibre to the 
Cabinet (FTTC) and copper to the premises. An Openreach engineer will 
bring and fit the modem because that and the line is supplied by BT 
Wholesale; BT Retail will send you the Home Hub. With Infinity 1 you 
can get up to 40Mbs downstream, and 10Mbs upstream, with a usage limit 
of 40GB per month. With Infinity 2 the monthly limit is removed and 
max speeds double. The speeds depend on your distance from the 
cabinet.

Fibre to the Premises is currently available only in very limited 
areas, and again there will be two boxes, one to terminate the fibre, 
the other a router.

One downside of fibre is that if you have an intermittent fault, it 
can be difficult to find the cause. Mine is now working at full speed, 
but it took a while to get there.

-- 
Paul Oates
oatespaul@btinternet.com

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Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 09:56 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 10:13 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:16 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 12:32 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:39 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 16:08 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:16 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:13 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:37 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:50 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:06 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 13:14 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:03 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 18:26 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:41 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:43 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 14:08 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 19:33 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:22 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 23:45 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 08:00 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:42 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 11:24 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 12:13 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:55 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 16:07 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-04 11:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 20:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:24 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:19 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 07:46 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:16 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:10 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 17:53 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:19 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 18:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 20:45 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:47 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:10 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-06 10:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:50 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:46 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:14 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:15 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:21 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:20 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:36 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:57 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:39 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 22:05 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-09-03 22:39 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-03 22:46 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 23:08 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 23:02 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 10:15 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:06 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:16 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 11:47 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:06 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:15 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:49 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-06 08:02 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 12:11 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-09 20:11 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-09 21:12 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 10:17 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-10 17:39 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 07:54 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:33 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:25 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:41 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 13:12 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-10 18:50 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-10 20:56 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:05 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:20 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:23 +0000
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:13 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 12:31 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-11 00:47 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 06:47 +0000
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 10:28 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:58 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-12 19:32 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-13 00:38 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-09-10 19:28 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:55 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-09-09 17:49 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:51 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 14:44 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 15:40 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-21 19:28 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 09:43 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-22 10:37 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-22 10:10 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 13:13 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:09 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:59 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:21 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-27 20:00 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2012-09-27 21:01 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-28 10:27 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 11:34 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 12:59 +0100
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              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 13:28 +0100

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