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From	Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject	Re: Moving ISP
Date	2012-09-05 22:15 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<c4c2a0ca52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> (permalink)
References	(1 earlier) <52ca5edc29dave@davenoise.co.uk> <0c8c63ca52.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net> <52ca6478dfdave@davenoise.co.uk> <ba3f67ca52.dougjwebb@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com> <52ca6e84d2dave@davenoise.co.uk>

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I've been using BT broadband and its Home Hub for about a year now 
with no problems.  The switchover from my previous ISP was painless.

Doug Webb's list is excellent.  He knows what he is talking about -- 
he works for BT, if I remember aright.


Dave Plowman (News) wrote on 5 Sep:
> My thoughts were I'd need fixed IP addresses since that's what I was told
> to do before - and my RPCs haven't changed (much) since then.

The BT Home Hub, as I found on my maiden voyage with it, uses the 
range 192.168.1.xx by default and gives itself xx=254, which was a bit 
unexpected -- different from my previous router.  That's the IP 
address you need to specify as "gateway" in your RiscOS networking 
dialogue.

Doug explained how you can change this default range.  I didn't know 
at the time or I would have done so.  (10.0.0.xx seems tidier.)
   In the event, however, I found that the Hub handed out IP addresses 
to each machine that were different from the ones I used before.  Its 
web interface gives a nice display of what's connected.  It lets you 
say "ALWAYS use this address" if you want, so I did that and revised 
my RiscOS Hosts file accordingly.

One gotcha I learned the hard way with my first networking experience 
some years ago:  don't use xx=0 or xx=255 because these have special 
meanings


> I use ShareFS between them, and LanMan98 to share files between the PCs
> and them. Uniprint for printing. I don't use the PCs for email or news, so
> will want Pluto/POPstar/NewsHound to continue working. I also have my own
> domain for email and will need to continue with that. If I can get into
> the BT router to configure it (in much the same way as I can do with the
> current one) I expect things will be ok - with the help of all of you
> here. I was sort of worried that it simply came with a CD for Windows and
> if that didn't do things - tough.

You'll be fine with all that stuff.  There's no "CD for Windows" 
scenario.  You can look at the Hub's web display with a RiscOS browser 
in a rudimentary way but for some features you'll need to browse with 
your PC.


When I first began using BT broadband, they phoned with an offer of a 
free month's subscription with their "any sort of IT help any time" 
service (after which it's £10 a month).  I made use of this -- they 
were quite helpful with some fairly obscure questions I asked (which 
didn't have to be about BT broadband) and used VNC to tweak things in 
Windows that would have taken me a lot of hunting.  But I didn't have 
enough questions to make it worth paying after the beginning.

-- 
Jim Nagel                        www.archivemag.co.uk

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Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 09:56 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 10:13 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:16 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 12:32 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:39 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 16:08 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:16 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:13 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:37 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:50 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:06 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 13:14 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:03 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 18:26 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:41 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:43 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 14:08 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 19:33 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:22 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 23:45 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 08:00 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:42 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 11:24 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 12:13 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:55 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 16:07 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-04 11:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 20:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:24 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:19 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 07:46 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:16 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:10 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 17:53 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:19 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 18:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 20:45 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:47 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:10 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-06 10:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:50 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:46 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:14 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:15 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:21 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:20 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:36 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:57 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:39 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 22:05 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-09-03 22:39 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-03 22:46 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 23:08 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 23:02 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 10:15 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:06 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:16 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 11:47 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:06 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:15 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:49 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-06 08:02 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 12:11 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-09 20:11 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-09 21:12 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 10:17 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-10 17:39 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 07:54 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:33 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:25 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:41 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 13:12 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-10 18:50 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-10 20:56 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:05 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:20 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:23 +0000
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:13 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 12:31 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-11 00:47 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 06:47 +0000
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 10:28 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:58 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-12 19:32 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-13 00:38 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-09-10 19:28 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:55 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-09-09 17:49 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:51 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 14:44 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 15:40 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-21 19:28 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 09:43 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-22 10:37 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-22 10:10 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 13:13 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:09 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:59 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:21 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-27 20:00 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2012-09-27 21:01 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-28 10:27 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 11:34 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 12:59 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 13:02 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 13:28 +0100

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