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Re: Moving ISP

From Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject Re: Moving ISP
Date 2012-09-04 13:53 +0100
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Message-ID <71feeec952.chris@o2.co.uk> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <ant0318521cbBxcK@strongarm.half-baked-idea.co.uk> <52c99f480fspam.pling@btinternet.com> <ant032235868BxcK@strongarm.half-baked-idea.co.uk> <52c9cea68espam.pling@btinternet.com> <ant040909b49pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>

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In message <ant040909b49pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
          Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <52c9cea68espam.pling@btinternet.com>, spampling
> <URL:mailto:spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> In article <ant032235868BxcK@strongarm.half-baked-idea.co.uk>,
>>    Derek.Moody <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> wrote:
>>> If you are out of the minimum period, when you leave BT,
>> 
>> That presupposes that the possibility of using something other than BT or a
>> BT reseller is likely to arise. The village is cabled by BT only and the
>> LLU is limited to the opal telecom setup (Talk Talk) nothing available
>> gives better speed (I've checked with other people in the village and they
>> all suffer bad or even abysmal bandwidth.
>> 
>> Now that the BT period (to keep the phone number I've always had, but Talk
>> Talk wouldn't release to anyone but back to BT) has ended I can look at
>> Plusnet or similar (BT by a different name)

> I would expect that for 99% of people 99% of the time their speed is
> governed by the physical network they are connected to.
> If you are on a cable network then you have no choice of ISP
> All other connections will be via the BT network, so you speeed will be
> goverened by BT (Unless your ISP have really screwed things up.)
> Any ISP claiming they can increase our speed by swapping to them is doing
> wishfull thinking (Unless you have a capped rate with your current ISP)

Sorry, but this is inaccurate information.

There are 5 types of ISP's

Those using BT wholesale (probably the majority)

There is Cable provide by Virgin

There is Satellite (of most use in more difficult to access areas)

There are Mobile Broadband services

There are also LLU unbundled ISP - although they do use the Bt wires, 
they have there own kit in the Exchane and since they generally use 
ADSL2+ can offer faster speeds - BT Wholesale don't control the speed 
of these connections since the only bit of there kit involved is the 
wires. Companies like O2, BE, etc..

I have two ADSL lines here, one is a BT provide service 2Meg service 
1.6meg really and they say they can't improve it.

But the O2 LLU connection I have over BT Wholesale wires is currently 
running at 5Mb

> When changing ISPs there is one other thing to remember if you are using old
> software like the Ant Suite which does not do Authenticated SMTP.
> Whilst Authenticated SMTP is NOT required by Talk Talk in its many guises,
> BT I belive and most other ISP do now require it.

> Anyone know of any other ISP that does not require Authenticated SMTP?

Rumour has it, all UK ISP's will be introducing it


-- 
Chris Hughes

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Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 09:56 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 10:13 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:16 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 12:32 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:39 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 16:08 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:16 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:13 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:37 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:50 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:06 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 13:14 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:03 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 18:26 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:41 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:43 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 14:08 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 19:33 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:22 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 23:45 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 08:00 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:42 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 11:24 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 12:13 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:55 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 16:07 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-04 11:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 20:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:24 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:19 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 07:46 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:16 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:10 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 17:53 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:19 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 18:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 20:45 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:47 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:10 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-06 10:23 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:50 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:46 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:14 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:15 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:21 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:20 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:36 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:57 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:39 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 22:05 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-09-03 22:39 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-03 22:46 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 23:08 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 23:02 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 10:15 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:06 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:16 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 11:47 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:06 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:15 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:49 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-06 08:02 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 12:11 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-09 20:11 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-09 21:12 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 10:17 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-10 17:39 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 07:54 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:33 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:25 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:41 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 13:12 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-10 18:50 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-10 20:56 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:05 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:20 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:23 +0000
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:13 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 12:31 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-11 00:47 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 06:47 +0000
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 10:28 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:58 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-12 19:32 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-13 00:38 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-09-10 19:28 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:55 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-09-09 17:49 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:51 +0100
  Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 14:44 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 15:40 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-21 19:28 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 09:43 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-22 10:37 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-22 10:10 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 13:13 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:09 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:59 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:21 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-27 20:00 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2012-09-27 21:01 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-28 10:27 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 11:34 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 12:59 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 13:02 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 13:28 +0100

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