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Re: London Show, Saturday 25th October 2025

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In message <5c80e70fe9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
 on 24 Nov 2025 Stuart  wrote:

> In article <46f26e7f5c.Matthew@sinenomine.co.uk>,
>    Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
>>  on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart  wrote:

>>> In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
>>>    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but
>>>> hopefully RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a
>>>> regular basis.

>>> Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for
>>> me to drive these days.

>> Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be
>> prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)

> Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
> of Petrol!

That wasn't really my point.  I thought that if you like model railways 
you might like real railways as well, and therefore might like to avoid 
driving, but these things do not always follow!

> Train travel to Warrington, leaving Kenilworth at 07.47, arriving
> Warrington central 10.46 would cost me £64.60 (putting in details for this
> comimg Saturday). This would seriously affect the amount I have available
> to spend on Riscos hardware/software.

You can often get cheaper tickets by booking further ahead.  At the moment 
you can get tickets for £20 each way Kenilworth - Warrington for early 
January, for example.

The problem with public transport prices for most people is that having 
tied up quite a lot of capital in a car, and paid tax and insurance each 
year up front, the marginal cost of driving somewhere is pretty cheap, so 
the train fare naturally looks unrealistically expensive.  If you do not 
have a car, train travel is often still good value considering the 
additional spending money you have from not keeping a car.

Your original complaint was that having the London show clashing with the 
model railway show meant you couldn't get to any RISC OS shows as 
Warrington was too far to drive.  But from Kenilworth (which I realise is 
only your nearest station, not your home address) the distances to 
Warrington and Harrow are only about 10 miles different by car, and some 
route planners reckon that Warrington is quicker to get to.

So I guess that the London show is also too far for you to drive for a day 
trip? Unless, of course, you have a handy family member to stay overnight 
with in the London area!

Train tickets from Kenilworth to Harrow look like they are slightly more 
expensive than tickets to Warrington too.

No need to volunteer more information - I'm only looking up stuff to 
distract myself from getting on with programming something!  But I think 
it shows that travel choices are often affected by personal circumstances 
in a way that is hard for outsiders to follow.  Just as choosing the date 
for a show is affected by circumstances that outsiders have little grasp 
of.

For what it's worth, there were a few years pre-Covid when the London Show 
was on a weekend when our handy family member in the London area was 
routinely away running Hallowe'en events in the Peak District, so as 
exhibitors we either had to do the Durham to London trip in a day, by 
train (4.5 hours each way), or shell out for an overnight stay in London, 
which costs a lot more than Warrington!

-- 
Matthew Phillips
Durham

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