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Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts

From Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl>
Subject Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Date 2012-04-20 15:50 +0200
Message-ID <528366ac77Paul@sprie.nl> (permalink)
References (12 earlier) <8616c98252.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <5282ccb375Paul@sprie.nl> <e759e78252.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <528311b64cPaul@sprie.nl> <bf0d4d8352.martin@bach.planiverse.com>
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In article <bf0d4d8352.martin@bach.planiverse.com>,
   Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:

> Instead of asking for an improved OS you need to ask for Unicode aware
> applications. Improving the Unicode support in the OS will not make any
> difference at all as long as applications are refusing to go Unicode.

All right, I can understand that. It even sounds encouraging, since half of
the work (the OS) seems to be done already.


> This is not a chicken-and-egg situation because the existing Unicode 
> support is good enough to display, process and print Unicode text 
> (PostScript printing requires the PostScript 3 driver - credits to 
> John Tytgat for doing all the Unicode printing related work on that).

Well, that sounds even better. But why can't I print the Unicode text that
is displayed by !Edit? Is that because !Edit only supports direct text
printing (or whatever it is called)?


> The main thing that is difficult in a non-Unicode desktop is entering 
> Unicode characters, but there are ways around that and for many 
> applications being able to receive and render Unicode text would be a 
> huge step forward already.

May I point at !KeyMap, a programmable keyboard driver that supports
Unicode, written by Richard Spencer and - cough - me. Receiving Unicode
should therefore no longer be a problem for an application (although
Chinese and other zillion+ character languages are still far beyond the
scope of KeyMap). But rendering? I would really love to see OvationPro, or
any text capable editor for that matter, rendering unicode fonts.


> The most obvious candidate in that respect is of course
> EasiWriter/TechWriter because Word files have Unicode content. However,
> that is a huge task and sadly only a small fraction of the user base is
> interested in non-Latin text.

Apologise for not immediately understanding, but what exactly is a huge
task? Displaying Unicode Word files, or displaying Unicode fonts tout
court?

!Dict can display and edit Unicode fonts. As a matter of fact, you helped
me enormously by explaining how caret positioning works. Of course, the
editor of !Dict is extremely limited and even then I managed to make the
process buggy, but if I can do it, then it can't be that difficult.
Or am I missing a lot of points again?

Kind regards,
Paul Sprangers

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Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts castlevarich <castlevarich@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-24 05:17 -0700
  Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-03-26 22:27 +0100
    Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-26 22:42 +0100
      Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-27 00:18 +0200
        Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts castlevarich <castlevarich@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 08:39 -0700
          Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-04 20:27 +0100
          Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-05 01:17 +0200
            Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts castlevarich <castlevarich@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 08:38 -0700
              Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-05 18:10 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts castlevarich <castlevarich@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-16 08:42 -0700
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 07:24 +0100
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-18 17:06 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 18:55 +0100
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-19 11:09 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-19 10:37 +0100
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-04-19 11:48 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-19 16:39 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-04-20 00:22 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-20 11:10 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-04-20 15:50 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-20 17:10 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 18:06 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 18:31 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-04-20 22:21 +0100
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-21 02:15 +0100
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 05:06 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 17:54 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 17:47 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-23 08:00 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-04-23 10:16 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 17:00 +0200
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 23:30 +0100
                Re: Increasing default line spacing in RISC OS fonts castlevarich <castlevarich@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 04:38 -0700

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