Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc.

From	druck <news@druck.org.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.apps
Subject	Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc.
Date	2025-06-06 21:31 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 06/06/2025 20:21, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <756dda285c.chris@mytardis>,
>     Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Why not just get yourself a much faster RISC OS computer! Something
>> like Pi4B, RISC OS Browser will be then be quicker.
> 
> Well actually I do have a Pi4 and it has RISCOS 5 on it and it has
> been clocked a bit too. I enjoy working on trying to perfect the
> tagging in my fairly substantial music library held on a NAS.
> 
> I estimated it was about 10% faster at that particular task than my
> Mini.m cube. That task is networking intensive through Lanman98 and
> sunfish. I admit I've not really played with the pi4 as a desktop
> machine and I suppose I should but it wasn't the night and day I was
> looking for on the networking job.

I'm surprised you only find the Pi4B 10% faster. It has at least 5x 
faster processor than the Mini.M, which is between a Pi 2B and a 3B. 
I've found the networking performance of the Pi 4B to be at least double 
that of the Mini.m, and that with the ROOL stack, the latest ROD is 
quicker again.

What are you using for storage on the Pi 4? The one thing the Mini.m had 
going for it was the SATA interface hooked up directly to a SSD, which 
gave it much better performance than a Pi 2 or 3. The Pi 4 is a big 
improvement over those with a USB SSD, even though RISC OS *still* 
doesn't support USB3.

> The other thing that puts me off it is the fan, I hate the fan
> cutting in and out I can't wait to switch the machine off because of
> it. Are there any fanless faster machines?

There are two options, my RISC OS Pi 4B has the big aluminum block 
heatsink case, so is completely silent and never runs too hot with RISC 
OS only using a single core.

On my Linux Pi 4B's I did try a fan shim, but the tiny fan soon got 
noisey and I replaced it 3 times before giving up. I decided go larger 
than the 30mm fans on the Pi 3Bs and 3B+s and all of the 4Bs are now in 
cases with much larger 40mm fans running on 3V3, they are inaudible and 
run cool.

The range of Pi compute module 4 based machines look to be the best 
thing to run RISC OS on at the moment.

---druck

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RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 10:53 +0100
  Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-06-06 11:48 +0100
    Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 12:11 +0100
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          Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Paul Stewart <phorefaux@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 17:47 +0100
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      Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-06-06 19:30 +0100
        Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Paul Stewart <phorefaux@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 15:30 +0100
  Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-06-06 11:37 +0100
    Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 12:23 +0100
      Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-06-06 12:49 +0100
        Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:25 +0100
          Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-06-06 14:44 +0100
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            Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 18:41 +0100
              Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-06-06 19:39 +0100
                Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:21 +0100
                Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2025-06-06 21:31 +0100
                Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-07 11:01 +0100
                Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 10:04 +0100
                Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-06-11 10:29 +0100
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  Re: RISCOS browsers and google etc. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2025-06-06 21:14 +0100
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