Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem

From	Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.programming
Subject	Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem
Date	2012-01-20 04:08 +0000
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Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:

> Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/19/12 04:16 AM, Leif Roar Moldskred wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, but none that ticks all the boxes "easy", "convenient", "secure"
>>> and "no third party involved".
>> 
>> scp?
>> 
> 
> That's one of the better ways, but it's not something Joe Regular User
> would be comfortable with.
> 
> And like many of the methods, scp is made to exchange files between
> machines rather than between users. If Frank wants to send a file to
> Bob, he not only have to figure out which machine Bob is on and
> manually navigate NAT / firewalls to reach that machine, but Frank
> needs to have credentials on Bob's machine to be allowed to write a
> file to it.
> 
> Perhaps the best way to send files between people rather than machines
> (if we ignore sending files through e-mail) is DCC file copy on IRC:
> there's no need to register any accounts or log-in details with any
> service providers, it's easy to agree on a meetup, the users doesn't
> need to know any information about each other beyond the meetup
> details (servername, channel and / or nick), the receiver doesn't need
> to know anything about the sender's file system or vice versa and the
> file is never available to any third party. Both users have to be
> online at the same time, though, and DCC does not play very well with
> NATs and firewalls.

It appears that DCC represents the best available option.  Nowadays maybe 
XMPP is a better alternative than IRC, as it is properly decentralized and 
users don't require to be connected to the same server/network to be able to 
interact.  Plus, at least some XMPP clients also offer support for DCC file 
transfer.  Maybe this is the way to go.


> These days, perhaps the most convenient solution for most people would
> be some mechanism for sending files from one Facebook account to
> another, but I'm not aware of any existing one.

It might be convenient, but it wouldn't be wise, to say the least.  Facebook 
represents a middlemen which isn't particularly known for his staunch 
defence on user's inalienable right to privacy.


Rui Maciel

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Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 17:17 +0000
  Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2012-01-15 18:35 +0100
    Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 18:07 +0000
      Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2012-01-15 20:19 +0100
        Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 19:42 +0000
  Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-01-15 19:15 +0000
    Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 20:10 +0000
  Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-01-18 09:16 -0600
    Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-19 16:26 +0000
      Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-19 14:59 -0600
        Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-19 21:22 +0000
          Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-19 15:54 -0600
            Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-19 22:20 +0000
              Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-19 17:43 -0600
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-20 04:22 +0000
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-19 23:43 -0600
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-20 12:59 +0000
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-20 02:41 -0800
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-20 12:45 +0000
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-20 15:41 -0800
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:18 +0000
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-20 16:41 -0800
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-20 18:44 -0600
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-20 15:43 -0800
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-20 18:34 -0600
                Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2012-01-21 10:21 +0000
              Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-20 03:59 +0000
            Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-20 03:44 +0000
              Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-19 23:41 -0600
    Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-20 14:07 +1300
      Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) - 2012-01-19 18:20 -0800
      Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-01-19 20:33 -0600
        Re: Ideas on solving the file transfer problem Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-20 04:08 +0000

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