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Re: Towards true A.I.

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On Jun 19, 4:08 am, seeWebInst...@rem.intarweb.org (Robert Maas,
http://tinyurl.com/uh3t) wrote:
> > From: Walter Banks <wal...@bytecraft.com>
> > Your tiny url is broken or it may be as intended and I don't have
> > enough intelligence or information to know the difference.
>
> I use lots of tinyURLs. Which one is giving you trouble?
>
> > I have done quite a bit of AI over the years. The most
> > important comment anyone has ever made to me about
> > AI is. We have spent so much effort parsing external
> > image sources  (text, speech, image) and so little
> > effort in the extraction of information.
>
> I think I agree with you, but it would be helpful (to this
> discussion) if you give 3-5 examples of a situation as follows:
> - Overall general situation
> - Specific data being observed with respect to that situation
> - How far the A.I. work has gone in parsing the data
> - What next step is missing, what *should* be done next, what
>    actual information should be gleaned from the parse-tree that
>    was already computed.
>
> > Some of the current AI successes have been brute force.
> > There is a project at the University of Waterloo on speech
> > response systems that basically does a lot of brute force
> > pattern matching in parallel and decides from degree of
> > matches and context the most likely meaning and responds
> > appropriately.
>
> That sounds vaguely like the high level part of the methodology
> used by the moderately-successful "Watson" system used to play
> "Jeopardy" (TV show), with different low-level pattern matching
> tools due to different type of data being analyzed. Based on what
> I've learned about recent research in natural intelligence, such as
> reported on the "Brain" series of "Charlie Rose" and various
> reports on other science programs, I'm leaning toward believing
> that part of natural intelligence actually works that way, with
> various neurons competing for attention, with their signal
> amplitudes proportional to their confidences in their respective
> proposals, such that most confident answer wins the debate and is
> passed on to the next level of decision making.

Sounds like the pandemonium architecture? Selfridge 1958.

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    Re: Towards true A.I. curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch) - 2012-03-30 15:56 +0000
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