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| From | quasi <quasi@null.set> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.programming, comp.theory, sci.math, comp.graphics.algorithms |
| Subject | Re: Worst Case Greedy Walk |
| Date | 2011-11-02 18:24 -0500 |
| Organization | none |
| Message-ID | <5fi3b7994s1r98b063f1be1r99ivcfvu68@4ax.com> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:55:06 -0500, quasi <quasi@null.set> wrote: >In this subthread, I'll pose a few other "greedy-walk" type >problems relating to the Traveling Salesman Problem (TSP). >While I know very little about TSP, I suspect that problems >along the lines of the ones I pose below are likely to have >been studied, and if so, a reference would be of interest. > >I'll pose 3 problems ... > >Given a set S of n points in the plane, n > 2, with all >distinct pairwise distances (each point has a unique nearest >neighbor). What if we change R^2 to R^k, for some fixed positive integer k < n? Alternatively, we can allow S to be an arbitrary n-point metric space, not necessarily embeddable in R^(n-1). Also, we might consider removing the requirement that the distances are distinct. Of course, then we will get more than n distinct greedy full cycles. >By a "full cycle on S" we mean a closed path which starts >at a vertex of S, visits all other points of S exactly once, >and then returns to the starting point. > >Two full cycles on S will be considered the same if and only >if they have the same starting point and visit the same points >in the same order. By this version of "sameness", there are >exactly n! full cycles on S. > >By the length of a full cycle on S we mean the sum of the >n distances from each point to the next point in the cycle. > >Problem (1): Of all the full cycles on S, how many distinct >total distances are possible? > >Since for each full cycle, there are 2n full cycles (including >the original one) with the same total distance (obtained by >simply changing the starting point or the direction of travel), >the full cycles on S yield at most ((n-1)!)/2 distinct total >distances. Perhaps this crude upper bound can always actually >be achieved? > >Next ... > >By a "greedy full cycle on S" we mean a full cycle on S such >that each of the n-1 points visited before the final return >is chosen "greedily", that is, from a given point in the >cycle, the next point to be visited is the closest yet >unvisited point of S other than the starting point, unless >there are no such points, in which case, the final visit >is a return to the starting point. > >Thus, there are exactly n greedy full cycles on S. > >Problem (2): Of the greedy full cycles on S, can there be >n distinct total lengths? If not, at most how many distinct >total lengths are possible? > >Finally ... > >Let > >m(S) = the least total length of a full cycle on S. > >a(S) = the least total length of a greedy full cycle on S. > >b(S) = the greatest total length of a greedy full cycle on S. > >Obviously, m(S) <= a(S) <= b(S). > >Problem (3): Over all sets S, what are the maximum possible >values, as a function of n, of the ratios > > b(S)/a(S) > > b(S)/m(S) > > a(S)/m(S) > >?? Let's consider two special case of Problem (3) above ... First, suppose k = 1. In other words, the n points are on the real line. Also, relax the restriction on distinct distances. With these conditions, I think the following claim holds: b(S)/m(S) < 4/3 for all n. The maximum possible value of b(S)/m(S) -> 4/3 as n -> oo. Next, fix n = 4, but again relax the restriction on distinct distances. For k = 1,2,3 what are the maximum possible values for b(S)/m(S)? What if S is an arbitrary 4-point metric space, not necessarily embeddable in R^3? quasi
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