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Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ?

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Alexei,

> I'm thinking more of declaring a symbol for each string and deducing
> the segment from that symbol (or it maybe a pair of symbols, one
> for the offset, the other for the segment).

To be honest, I didn't think of that.

It would possibly be workable for simple situations, like the 
single-argument int 21h, AH=09h.   It wouldn't for anything that used more 
than one pointer argument (into different segments) though.

IOW, it would need constant scrutiny by me, the programmer, to make sure 
that all (applied by macros ?) "fixes" would actually work.  :-(    Ehh... 
no.  Although possible not really a solution.

> I don't remember the details and they are important.

I did not provide any other than "[stack based item]", which I thought would 
be picked up by anyone here as either "[bp-xxxx]" or "[sp+xxxx]".   I was 
mistaken. :-|

> I'm afraid that's unavoidable.

That is what I thought, but wanted to make sure I did not overlook anything 
/ something simpler.

>> > Lastly, perhaps you should be using segmented memory
>> Isn't that what is what started my problem ? Putting DS into a different
>> segment than SS ?
>
> Sorry, it should've been "should NOT be using segmented memory".

:-) In that case, I'm not (yet).    I've been using the "tiny" memory model 
where CS = DS = SS , as that one is easiest to work with and I simply have 
never had the need for more memory (in relation to those three segments).

Its just that I saw a possible situation (I was thinking about recursion and 
how it gobbles stack memory), and wondered how that would work.  As it turns 
out, not even Borland actually wished to burn their fingers on it - all its 
memory models set SS to the same as DS.

> Then embrace it. Write all of the plumbing by hand. :)

As programmers we're supposed to be "lazy".  If something repeats than we 
rather spend an hour to solve a 10 minute problem than to write it twice, 
let alone more than that. :-)

The bottom line is that a memory model with SS <> DS is simply no fun to 
deal with.   As I could have guessed if I would have looked at the offered 
memory models earlier.   Hmmm... Probably would not have stopped me from 
asking though. <whistle>

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-04 08:56 +0100
  Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-04 12:47 +0000
    Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-04 15:57 +0100
      Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-04 16:13 +0000
        Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-04 18:41 +0100
          Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-04 20:28 +0000
            Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-05 08:56 +0100
              Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-05 10:32 +0000
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-05 13:11 +0100
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-05 12:21 +0000
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-05 14:59 +0100
        Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-04 19:00 +0100
  Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 14:27 +0700
    Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <>  DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-05 12:43 +0100
  Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? "Alexei A. Frounze" <alexfrunews@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 22:25 -0800
    Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Mateusz Viste <mateusz@xyz.invalid> - 2021-12-06 09:30 +0100
    Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-06 14:33 +0100
      Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2021-12-06 19:01 +0100
        Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-06 21:16 +0100
          Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2021-12-07 00:19 +0100
            Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Mateusz Viste <mateusz@xyz.invalid> - 2021-12-07 09:31 +0100
            Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-07 09:37 +0100
            Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ?   Newbie language. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-08 10:16 +0100
              Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Newbie language. Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2021-12-08 17:39 +0100
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Newbie language. "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-08 17:37 +0000
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Newbie language. Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2021-12-08 22:31 +0100
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Newbie language. "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-12-09 21:43 +0000
                Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? Newbie language. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-08 22:19 +0100
      Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? "Alexei A. Frounze" <alexfrunews@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 22:40 -0800
        Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ? "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2021-12-07 10:17 +0100

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