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Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ?

From "R.Wieser" <address@not.available>
Newsgroups comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject Re: How to access stack-based data (strings) when SS <> DS ?
Date 2021-12-07 09:37 +0100
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Herbert,

> And therefore it doesn't also make much sense for a "starter" to start 
> with 16 bit coding instead of the much easier 32 bit coding.

Fail.  No such destinction was made by you.  And you are talking to someone 
who (obviously?) has been doing 16-bit programming for a while now.  IOW, it 
looks like you are shifting goalposts.

> Because normally a program is not only executed once.

Fail again, as you making an assumption towards what *I* do with the result. 
I could ofcourse tell you I've written 16-bit programs years ago that I 
still use, but somehow I think you will just discard that as an "exception 
to the rule".

> Even if done as a hobby, the result should be something useful.

And thats the actual point, isn't it ?   You do not see the usefullness of 
what I'm doing.

But instead of asking you just come out challenging me, suggesting that I 
should stop doing it, even though I enjoy doing it.

And for the record, enjoying doing something is all thats needed for a 
hobby - even if the result is of no use to anyone, including the one 
practicing it.    I'm sure you can think of a few hobbies like that..   I'll 
give you the first one : collecting sugar sachets..

> Why mess around to make pictures with a camera.

You hit the nail on the head, but do not seem to be aware of it ....

Why /would/ you take pictures ?   You would just waste *heaps* of time 
making them, on possibly /very/ expensive equipment.  And than spend even 
more time on tagging them, possibly color-correcting, cropping and than 
sorting/putting them into easy-findable-and-viewable groups.     All so they 
can be shown off to people who, more often than not, do not really care.

And by the way, I've got a friend which does all of the above, and is 
mulling to go professional.  He's simply that good.  Something he would not 
have known if he hadn't picked up  photographing as a hobby ...

> but many programs written for MSDOS can still be executed in the current 
> 32 bit Windows version.

Funny, the thing you started with was claiming that they wouldn't - and that 
I, for that reason, should not be doing any 16-bit programming (anymore) ...

> The problem is, that AMD removed v86 mode in 64 bit mode

So they should have to support a 16 /as well as/ a 32 bit mode next to the 
native, 64-bit one ?   'Cause that is what they did : just like a 32-bit 
processor supported a 16-bit mode (one step down), a 64-bit processor now 
supports a 32-bit mode.

> Microsoft didn't add a software DOS emulator in 64 bit Windows.

Than look around a bit.  Don't expect MS to just drop everything into your 
lap.  Google for "DOSBox 64-bit".

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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