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Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98?

From DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com>
Newsgroups alt.msdos, comp.os.msdos.programmer, comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98?
Date 2011-10-17 19:29 -0400
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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Ross Ridge wrote:

> > For the first-generation SATA controllers (circa 2003 to 2005)
> > you'll have no problems finding win-98 drivers. 
> 
> Every SATA device I've seen has a backwards compatiblity mode
> (often the default) which presents a standard IDE interface
> that the standard Windows 98 IDE drivers can use. 

I am not talking about IDE-compatibility mode (for which win-98 uses the
crippled ESDI_506.PDR which is where the 137 GB limitation lies).  BTW,
there is a modded public-domain version of ESDI_506 that's supposed to
address that problem.

It's been my experience that when I need to find them, I've had no
problem getting and installing drivers for SATA/Raid controllers for
Windows 98 for SATA-1 controllers.  Be it SiL, Intel, or Via.

On the system I'm using right now to type this post - a win-98 system
running on a P4 2.5 Ghz CPU Intel 845 motherboard, I have a PCI SATA
card with a Silicon Image SiL 3512 SATARaid Controller.  The driver for
this controller is SI3112r.mpd, file details says "Serial ATA Raid
miniport driver".  The comments says "Sil 3x12 SataRaid driver for
Windows 98/SE/ME, NT 4.0, Windows 2000/XP, and Windows Server 2003".

> > I was under the impression that 512 mb on a video card was
> > totally incompatible with windows 98.  Perhaps that was
> > only if the card was PCIe.  Is your card AGP?
> 
> There's no fundamental reason why a 512MB video card would have
> to be incompatible,

The consensus on the win-98/me forum on MSFN.org is that a 512mb video
card will not work under win-98, regardless what hacked or modded driver
is used.  Now, that may very well apply only to PCIe cards - because 512
MB AGP cards are (to my knowledge) less "available" within the last say
5 years (or were never that popular at any point in time).

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What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-16 18:27 -0400
  Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Trifle Menot <triflemenot@beewyz.com> - 2011-10-16 23:38 +0000
  Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-10-17 05:16 -0400
    Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-17 16:47 +0200
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? tomdzip <tomdzip@hotmail.com> - 2011-10-17 09:02 -0700
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-18 08:42 +0200
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-10-17 13:34 -0400
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 16:43 -0400
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 18:34 -0400
            Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 19:29 -0400
              Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 20:36 -0400
                Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 21:36 -0400
                Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-18 09:46 -0400
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-10-18 10:51 -0400
            Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-18 13:49 -0400
  Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 12:46 -0400
    Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 19:46 -0400
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Trifle Menot <triflemenot@beewyz.com> - 2011-10-18 00:14 +0000
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 20:56 -0400
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-18 08:53 +0200
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-18 09:12 -0400
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2011-10-18 07:03 -0700
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-19 10:07 +0200
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Ant" <not@home.today> - 2011-10-19 01:26 +0100
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-19 09:19 +0200

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