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Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98?

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Rod Pemberton wrote:

> It has PM 32-bit harddisk drivers.  In fact, it has PM 32-bit
> device drivers for just about everything.  SATA drivers are the
> only thing you won't find.  

That's actually incorrect.

For the first-generation SATA controllers (circa 2003 to 2005) you'll
have no problems finding win-98 drivers.  This is true regardless if the
controller is built on the motherboard or add-on PCI card.

The last intel chipset to have win-9x support (ICH-5R I believe - the
one that came with the 875 north bridge) had win-98 SATA/Raid driver
support.  As did many SiL 31xx-35xx chips.

I currently have a pair of SATA 1.5 TB FAT-32 drives connected to one of
my win-98 systems using a SiL 3112 dual-port PCI controller card. 
Win-98 sees this as a SCSI adapter in the device manager.

The nice thing about having SATA drivers for win-98 (and setting the
SATA ports to SATA/Raid in the bios - NOT IDE emulation mode) is that
you don't have the 137 gb partition-size problem.

I think the rule of thumb is that there are win-98 drivers for any/all
SATA-1 controllers.  But not for SATA-2/3 controllers.

> EVGA Nvidia 7960GT 512MB

I was under the impression that 512 mb on a video card was totally
incompatible with windows 98.  Perhaps that was only if the card was
PCIe.  Is your card AGP?

> Memory is capped at 1GB for WinSE by HIMEMX, but full 4GB should
> be available in MS-DOS.  I've not confirmed though.

I believe that DOS can see all 4 gb.  You're right that himemX must be
used to prevent Win-9x from "seeing" more than 1.5 gb of system ram (I
believe that if you have 1.5 gb or less of actual ram, then you don't
need to use himemX).  I've played around with various vcache settings
and have gotten win-98 to see and make use of 1.2 gb ram on a 2 gb
system.  Windows ME can see and make use of almost 2 gb (this ability
apparently can't be transplanted into win-98).
 
> With KernelEx, you can run all sorts of non-Win98/SE software

Yes, I've been running KeX for about 3 years now.

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What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-16 18:27 -0400
  Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Trifle Menot <triflemenot@beewyz.com> - 2011-10-16 23:38 +0000
  Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-10-17 05:16 -0400
    Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-17 16:47 +0200
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? tomdzip <tomdzip@hotmail.com> - 2011-10-17 09:02 -0700
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-18 08:42 +0200
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-10-17 13:34 -0400
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 16:43 -0400
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 18:34 -0400
            Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 19:29 -0400
              Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 20:36 -0400
                Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 21:36 -0400
                Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-18 09:46 -0400
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-10-18 10:51 -0400
            Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-18 13:49 -0400
  Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 12:46 -0400
    Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-17 19:46 -0400
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Trifle Menot <triflemenot@beewyz.com> - 2011-10-18 00:14 +0000
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-10-17 20:56 -0400
      Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-18 08:53 +0200
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? DOS Guy <DOS@Guy.com> - 2011-10-18 09:12 -0400
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2011-10-18 07:03 -0700
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-19 10:07 +0200
        Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Ant" <not@home.today> - 2011-10-19 01:26 +0100
          Re: What role does "DOS" play in Windows 95/98? "Klaus Meinhard" <K_Meinhard@gmx.de> - 2011-10-19 09:19 +0200

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