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| Started by | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| First post | 2025-12-06 22:52 +1100 |
| Last post | 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800 |
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Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:52 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:07 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:41 -0500
Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:25 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:00 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:33 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:32 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:56 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:24 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:11 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:48 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:18 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:33 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:20 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:59 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 18:02 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:41 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:35 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:09 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:53 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:08 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:18 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:36 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 22:11 +1100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:50 -0500
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:05 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:17 -0500
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:18 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:52 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:16 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:58 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 22:38 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:42 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:49 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:45 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:28 -0500
GPS Based Speedometers Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-09 12:47 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-09 08:14 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:13 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:35 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:30 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:52 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:37 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-12-09 16:24 +0100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:39 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 23:06 +1100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:43 +0100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 19:09 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:12 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 19:55 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:46 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 21:31 -0500
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:23 +0000
Re: Double booting Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 17:01 -0600
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:15 +0000
Cars, motors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:16 +0100
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:18 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:30 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:59 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:46 +0000
Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:11 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:28 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:42 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:49 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:19 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:26 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:19 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 15:27 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 17:49 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 20:48 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 15:40 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-13 19:32 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:08 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:32 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:14 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 01:33 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:18 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:26 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 13:20 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:29 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:00 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:04 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:51 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 08:45 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:15 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:02 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:27 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:45 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:28 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:37 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-17 00:42 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:02 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 20:12 -0700
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:56 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:15 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:42 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 03:53 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:20 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 22:41 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 23:15 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:12 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 01:32 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:48 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 14:49 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 20:03 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 16:39 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 03:07 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-22 12:56 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 17:33 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:14 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:20 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:11 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:25 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 13:08 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:55 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 00:43 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-22 21:59 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:32 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 15:39 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 20:59 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-13 02:52 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:11 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-14 03:48 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 08:50 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:51 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 04:06 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 21:03 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 00:03 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:59 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-12-14 13:17 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:27 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 01:33 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:34 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:23 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 22:17 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:57 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 06:58 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 02:23 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:11 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-17 12:28 -0600
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 18:39 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:08 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-18 22:55 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2025-12-18 06:01 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:29 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 17:31 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:50 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 00:13 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:18 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 02:08 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 19:44 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:46 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:12 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:29 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:54 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:01 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:24 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 07:44 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:48 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:02 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 06:52 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 02:19 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 08:14 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 22:35 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:03 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:25 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:23 +0100
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:50 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:48 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:50 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:28 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:21 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:56 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:32 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:46 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:47 -0500
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:39 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:08 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:57 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:09 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:50 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:11 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:20 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:27 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:57 -0500
Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:20 +0100
Re: Wheels Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 18:51 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:21 +0100
Re: Wheels Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:40 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:29 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:23 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:44 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:12 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:55 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:36 +0000
Re: Wheels Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:51 +1100
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:07 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:24 +0000
Re: Wheels Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 00:55 -0600
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:46 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:09 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:42 +0100
Re: Wheels c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 03:56 -0500
Rubber "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:32 +0100
Re: Rubber Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:37 +0000
Re: Rubber rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 02:06 +0000
Re: Rubber Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:26 -0500
Re: Rubber Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-20 20:45 +0000
Re: Rubber rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 02:03 +0000
Re: Rubber Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-12-20 21:38 -0700
Re: Rubber candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-24 14:10 +0000
Re: Rubber Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 01:00 +0000
Re: Rubber rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:52 +0000
Re: Rubber "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:26 +0100
Re: Wheels Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-19 05:06 -0500
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 18:48 +0000
Re: Wheels Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-19 19:26 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:49 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:01 +0000
Re: Wheels Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 22:48 +1100
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:51 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 18:54 +0000
Re: Wheels c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 01:50 -0500
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:47 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:48 +0000
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:42 +0000
Re: Wheels c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:15 -0500
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:50 +0100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:20 +0100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:22 -0500
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:22 +0100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:20 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:42 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 01:48 -0500
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:54 +0100
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-18 00:14 +1100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:06 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:54 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:23 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:57 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:39 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:02 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:51 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 22:04 -0500
Re: Double booting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 01:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <Gp2cnVIsbIPckaD0nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78914 |
On 12/12/25 06:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 12/12/2025 04:20, c186282 wrote: >>> Here we can not just put any wheel on a car, it has to be an approved >>> one. >> >> Still emulating the fascists I see ... what >> was the point in fighting them way back when ? >> >> USA you can get any brand, almost any size. >> You can mix sizes if you want. > > Well it is the flip side of not having cars with rusted through frames > and no brakes and steering that is no more than a vague indication of > intended direction on the road. Well, the driving is up to YOU in the USA. Just keep it between the lines ....... > 'Modification' of cars needs approval - at least from the insurers. No "Low Riders" in the UK apparently .... what a waste ! > However *some* latitude is allowable in the case of wheels and tyres > > Just not 50% larger rims and lift kits. That would have ruined several popular USA vehicle trends ! In the 60s and 70s you often saw cars with tiny fronts and BIG rears. An odd variant, mostly with 'blacks' (and recently SAW one), is to mod the suspension so the NOSE is high in the air while the rear almost drags pavement. Put on some funky music and CRUISE ! Later, giant, 'big-foot', trucks. But the UK must be proud of making sure everything is so bland and 'normal' and 'civilized' "for everyone's good" ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQuihD0hoI https://www.pinclipart.com/picdir/big/549-5494950_chopper-clipart-panhead-dragster-art-png-download.png https://i.etsystatic.com/51133007/r/il/73b1b6/5888466666/il_1140xN.5888466666_g65o.jpg USA is MUCH more fun. :-)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 14:54 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <bdjt0mxh92.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78865 |
On 2025-12-12 05:20, c186282 wrote: > On 12/11/25 05:22, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-12-10 06:22, c186282 wrote: >>> On 12/9/25 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-12-09 20:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 09/12/2025 14:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: ... >>> If not, then the estimation based on raw diameter >>> or circumference will be Good Enough to guess if >>> yer new tires put you at legal risk. >>> >>> It's just TOO easy to get hung up on the decimal points. >> >> Here we can not just put any wheel on a car, it has to be an approved >> one. > > Still emulating the fascists I see ... what > was the point in fighting them way back when ? > > USA you can get any brand, almost any size. > You can mix sizes if you want. You can put any wheel, but you need a technician or an engineer to certify the road worthiness of the modification. And it probably has to pass a test. The test is mandatory every few years for all vehicles. It actually saves lives. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-18 00:14 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <10huac1$3fold$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78932 |
On 13/12/2025 12:54 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-12 05:20, c186282 wrote: >> On 12/11/25 05:22, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-12-10 06:22, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 12/9/25 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2025-12-09 20:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>> On 09/12/2025 14:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > ... > >>>> If not, then the estimation based on raw diameter or >>>> circumference will be Good Enough to guess if yer new tires put >>>> you at legal risk. >>>> >>>> It's just TOO easy to get hung up on the decimal points. >>> >>> Here we can not just put any wheel on a car, it has to be an >>> approved one. >> >> Still emulating the fascists I see ... what was the point in >> fighting them way back when ? >> >> USA you can get any brand, almost any size. You can mix sizes if >> you want. > > You can put any wheel, but you need a technician or an engineer to > certify the road worthiness of the modification. And it probably has > to pass a test. The test is mandatory every few years for all > vehicles. Not mandatory here in Australia. My car is approaching 15 years old .... never been checked that I know of. > It actually saves lives. -- Daniel70
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-17 22:06 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <fsidnR_SK9VU8t70nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79379 |
On 12/17/25 08:14, Daniel70 wrote: > On 13/12/2025 12:54 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-12-12 05:20, c186282 wrote: >>> On 12/11/25 05:22, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-12-10 06:22, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 12/9/25 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-12-09 20:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> On 09/12/2025 14:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >> ... >> >>>>> If not, then the estimation based on raw diameter or >>>>> circumference will be Good Enough to guess if yer new tires put >>>>> you at legal risk. >>>>> >>>>> It's just TOO easy to get hung up on the decimal points. >>>> >>>> Here we can not just put any wheel on a car, it has to be an >>>> approved one. >>> >>> Still emulating the fascists I see ... what was the point in >>> fighting them way back when ? >>> >>> USA you can get any brand, almost any size. You can mix sizes if >>> you want. >> >> You can put any wheel, but you need a technician or an engineer to >> certify the road worthiness of the modification. And it probably has >> to pass a test. The test is mandatory every few years for all >> vehicles. > > Not mandatory here in Australia. My car is approaching 15 years old .... > never been checked that I know of. They'll be rudely dis-assembling the thing shortly, to see if you have any guns hidden in there :-)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 10:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <10hbjh5$1di3b$17@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78615 |
On 10/12/2025 02:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-09 20:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 09/12/2025 14:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-12-09 15:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 09/12/2025 11:57, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> On 9/12/2025 9:08 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>> On 08/12/2025 22:39, rbowman wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 00:20:38 +1100, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I usually put it down to my Tyres being under-inflated, so their >>>>>>>> diameter is less so it takes more revolutions of the tyre to >>>>>>>> cover a specified distance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think under inflation would change the diameter enough to >>>>>>> throw the speed off that much. In my case the diameter of the 14" >>>>>>> wheels is noticeably less than the 15". I see that in the spring >>>>>>> when I'm going back to the 15". If I jack the car up enough so the >>>>>>> 14" leaves the ground and I can remove it sometimes I have to jack >>>>>>> a little more to get the 15" on. >>>>>>> >>>>>> There is no such thing as diameter on a tyre. It isn't circular. >>>>>> Might as well ask yourself 'what is the diameter of a tank track' >>>>>> >>>>>> What counts is circumference and the tyre is elastic enough to expand >>>>>> a little under high pressure. >>>>> >>>>> .... and that pressure would get higher due to usage heating the tyre. >>>>> >>>>>> And to wear a little lower. >>>>> >>>>> ... which would reduce the tyres diameter, so decreasing the Ground >>>>> speed. >>>> >>>> THE TYRE HAS NO DIAMETER., It is not circular. >>> >>> It doesn't matter. We can calculate it. >>> >> No you cannot. > > Yes, we can. It is a formula with π in it. No, it isn't. > >> Any more than you can calculate the 'diameter' of a tank tread. >> You might choose to evaluate (circumference over pi), but that is just >> a number that has no meaning in this context. There is no physical >> dimension that corresponds to it > > Irrelevant. > Relevant > We measure the actual distance travelled for a number of turns. From > that we calculate the effective circumference, and from that, the > effective radius. > > None of those have to be the apparent length seen by a measuring tape on > the wheel. > Yes, they do . A measuring tape around the tread of an inflated tyre is its circumference. -- “Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of a car with the cramped public exposure of an airplane.” Dennis Miller
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 22:23 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <10he9k6$25r24$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78563 |
On 10/12/2025 1:09 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/12/2025 11:57, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 9/12/2025 9:08 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 08/12/2025 22:39, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 00:20:38 +1100, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> >>>>> I usually put it down to my Tyres being under-inflated, so their >>>>> diameter is less so it takes more revolutions of the tyre to >>>>> cover a specified distance. >>>> >>>> I don't think under inflation would change the diameter enough to >>>> throw the speed off that much. In my case the diameter of the 14" >>>> wheels is noticeably less than the 15". I see that in the spring >>>> when I'm going back to the 15". If I jack the car up enough so the >>>> 14" leaves the ground and I can remove it sometimes I have to jack >>>> a little more to get the 15" on. >>>> >>> There is no such thing as diameter on a tyre. It isn't circular. >>> Might as well ask yourself 'what is the diameter of a tank track' >>> >>> What counts is circumference and the tyre is elastic enough to expand >>> a little under high pressure. >> >> .... and that pressure would get higher due to usage heating the tyre. >> >>> And to wear a little lower. >> >> ... which would reduce the tyres diameter, so decreasing the Ground >> speed. > > THE TYRE HAS NO DIAMETER., It is not circular. > Say WHAT?? Is it elliptical or something?? -- Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 12:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <p5oq0mxrqf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78800 |
On 2025-12-11 12:23, Daniel70 wrote: > On 10/12/2025 1:09 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 09/12/2025 11:57, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 9/12/2025 9:08 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 08/12/2025 22:39, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 00:20:38 +1100, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I usually put it down to my Tyres being under-inflated, so their >>>>>> diameter is less so it takes more revolutions of the tyre to >>>>>> cover a specified distance. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think under inflation would change the diameter enough to >>>>> throw the speed off that much. In my case the diameter of the 14" >>>>> wheels is noticeably less than the 15". I see that in the spring >>>>> when I'm going back to the 15". If I jack the car up enough so the >>>>> 14" leaves the ground and I can remove it sometimes I have to jack >>>>> a little more to get the 15" on. >>>>> >>>> There is no such thing as diameter on a tyre. It isn't circular. >>>> Might as well ask yourself 'what is the diameter of a tank track' >>>> >>>> What counts is circumference and the tyre is elastic enough to expand >>>> a little under high pressure. >>> >>> .... and that pressure would get higher due to usage heating the tyre. >>> >>>> And to wear a little lower. >>> >>> ... which would reduce the tyres diameter, so decreasing the Ground >>> speed. >> >> THE TYRE HAS NO DIAMETER., It is not circular. >> > Say WHAT?? Is it elliptical or something?? It flattens where it touches the tarmac. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 12:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <10hee2c$270t7$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78800 |
On 11/12/2025 11:23, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 10/12/2025 1:09 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> THE TYRE HAS NO DIAMETER., It is not circular.
>>
> Say WHAT?? Is it elliptical or something??
No. it is ovoid with a flat contact patch, otherwise there would be no
traction at all
Here are some extreme examples
https://www.vecteezy.com/free-photos/flat-tire
--
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
forgotten your aim."
George Santayana
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-09 19:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <10h9rof$10ppd$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78557 |
In comp.os.linux.misc Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 9/12/2025 9:08 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 08/12/2025 22:39, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 00:20:38 +1100, Daniel70 wrote: >>> >>>> I usually put it down to my Tyres being under-inflated, so their >>>> diameter is less so it takes more revolutions of the tyre to cover >>>> a specified distance. >>> >>> I don't think under inflation would change the diameter enough to >>> throw the speed off that much. In my case the diameter of the 14" >>> wheels is noticeably less than the 15". I see that in the spring >>> when I'm going back to the 15". If I jack the car up enough so the >>> 14" leaves the ground and I can remove it sometimes I have to jack >>> a little more to get the 15" on. >>> >> There is no such thing as diameter on a tyre. It isn't circular. >> Might as well ask yourself 'what is the diameter of a tank track' >> >> What counts is circumference and the tyre is elastic enough to >> expand a little under high pressure. > > .... and that pressure would get higher due to usage heating the tyre. > >> And to wear a little lower. > > ... which would reduce the tyres diameter, so decreasing the Ground speed. TNP's point is that an air-inflated tire, when placed under load, is no longer circular. Therefore the forward distance traveled in one rotation is not pi * loaded_diameter. The forward distance traveled in one rotation is equal to the length of the outermost tire tread in the rolling direction. That outermost tread length changes very little with changes in apparent "diameter" due to loading and/or inflation pressure. A loaded, air inflated tire, has more in common 'travel distance' wise with a tank tread than with a circle. So one cannot simply measure axle center to road surface distance (radius of circle) and multiply by 2pi to get circumference of a circle, and use that to determine forward travel. That value will be short by the amount of length change in the "radius" due to load and inflation pressure in the tire.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-08 22:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <10h7kpf$eu8m$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78492 |
In comp.os.linux.misc Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 8/12/2025 6:33 am, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 19:25:01 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> Another thing is the TomTom tool. Sometimes I need to connect the thing >>> to the computer and do something on the software (like enable debug so >>> that customer service finds the problem). >> >> My Garmin Nuvi sometimes whines about needing a map update and the Garmin >> Express app is only for Windows or Mac. No big deal.What I mainly use it >> for it the speed. The studded tires I put on last week are 14" wheels and >> the car came with 15" so the speedometer is slightly off. I'm used to >> that. Jap bike speedometers always were optimistic so you mentally >> subtract 5 or 10 mph from the needle. > > So its NOT just Me! Good. > > Many years ago, one of my sisters gave me one of those Naviman things > for Christmas. > > I rarely use it because I usually know where I'm going but, often, I'd > be travelling with another sister who seems to be of the opinion 'If > you've got one, you might as well use it.' > > And she keeps telling my how my Speed is going .... and I've worked out > my Speedo is reading about 4 or 5 kM/h low i.e. in a 100kM/H zone my > Speedo needs to be showing 104 or 105kM/H for the Naviman to show 100kM/H. > > I usually put it down to my Tyres being under-inflated, so their > diameter is less so it takes more revolutions of the tyre to cover a > specified distance. No. For non-police speedo's they are intentionally set to read faster than your actual road speed. Apparently the regulations (at least in the US) requires that the speedo's for passenger cars never under-report road speed (read 75 when you are really doing 76). So to avoid regulation issues (and ambulance chasing lawyer lawsuits) the makers tune them to intentionally read just a few percent faster than actual road speed.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-07 22:04 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <v8Cdnduttp3Y3av0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78404 |
On 12/7/25 13:25, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-07 05:41, c186282 wrote: >> On 12/6/25 06:52, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 6/12/2025 1:36 pm, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 12/5/25 07:14, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> On 4/12/2025 2:13 pm, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> <Snip> >>>>> >>>>>> Ordered a newer unit. It'd BETTER boot Linux or >>>>>> it goes straight in the bin and HPs forever off >>>>>> my list. >>>>> >>>>> My HP 6730b laptop DID dual boot Win7 and MageiaLinux .... until it >>>>> started deleting the Win7 Installation!! >>>> >>>> Why would you need a Win installation ? That's the >>>> first thing zapped when I get a new box ... don't >>>> let it run for a millisecond :-) >>>> >>> Back when I brought the Laptop (2009), it had Win-7 pre- >>> installed .... and I was 'playing' with Linux so I thought it would >>> be better to leave the Win-7 insitu and Dual Boot the Linux ..... so, >>> if I stuffed something up Linux-wise, I could switch back to Win-7 >>> and away I'd go. >>> >>> You know .... Safety first!! >> >> >> LONG back I did dual (plus) boots. Then quickly I found >> I was never booting Winders anymore ... so ....... >> >> Sorry, NO MORE WINDERS. I'm not gonna get an MS account, >> not going to use their cloud, not gonna use ever-more- >> fuzzy O365, not ... well ... NEVER. >> >> Now it's a matter of pride to keep pre-installs from >> executing even one instruction before I nuke 'em with >> a Linux install. > > I have at least two things that require Windows. > > One is purchased ebooks; the DRM protection on many shops require ADE, > Adobe Digital Editions to handle. If I purchase the ebooks at the > kobobooks place, then I don't need anything. But if I buy at third party > places, I need it. > > Another thing is the TomTom tool. Sometimes I need to connect the thing > to the computer and do something on the software (like enable debug so > that customer service finds the problem). > > A decade ago, I needed a double boot laptop for this. Currently, a > virtual machine on vmware handles it. I do have a VM of XP, somewhere .... but haven't used it since forever. Frankly I liked W2K better, WAY less fluff and shit. In any case I don't use ANY Winders-dependent stuff for anything. Had to 'support' it in my old office job but it was a grudge thing. Now, Winders-NEVER. And Apple is as bad as M$ ... just more $$$ and even more attitude .......
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Double booting |
| Message-ID | <20251208091649.00006fd5@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #78404 |
On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 19:25:01 +0100 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > I have at least two things that require Windows. The main thing I use it for is MIDI sequencing and audio recording; the freenix audio infrastructure is a total cluster (and as much as I enjoy throwing shade at Lennart he's only responsible for half of it.) But that's running Win7, and would be running XP if I didn't need non-bodge 64-bit support for the sake of RAM capacity.
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