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Re: Recent history of vi

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First post2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
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  Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
      Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
        Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
          Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
            Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
        Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
        Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
              Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
                  Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
                    Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
                    Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
                  Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                    Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
                            Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
                                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
                          Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
                            Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
                              Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
                            Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
                        Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
                        Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
                            Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
                              Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
                                Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
                                      Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
                                      Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
                                        Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
                                          Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
                                            Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
                          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
                            Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
                          Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
                            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
                                    Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
                                        Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
                                      EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
                                        Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
                                        Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
                                          Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
                                            Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
                                              Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
                                            Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:34 +0000
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                                                        Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
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                                              Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                                                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:25 +0000
                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
                                        Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
                                          Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:22 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
                              Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:06 +0100
                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
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#78502

FromAlexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de>
Date2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
Message-ID<slrn10jdri1.1nl6b.als@frodo.angband.thangorodrim.de>
In reply to#78441
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/7/25 13:54, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He
>>>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin
>>>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had limited
>>>>> utility in later life.
>>>>
>>>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for starters,
>>>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived (Romance) languages.
>>>
>>> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics,
>>> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that
>>> language of an educated  European.
>> 
>> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an
>> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language
>> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke and it
>> conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so
>> they needed the clergy as "interpreters". One of the reasons why the
>> Church was so much after Martin Luther, because he enabled the common
>> people (yes, reading was still a limited distribution skill, but reading
>> the native language was far, far more common than understanding Latin)
>> to read "the word of God" themselves. Rather inconvient for the clergy
>> trying to remain gatekeepers ...
>
> 	Actually the stories in the Bible were originally recounted in Aramic 
> which was then translated to Greek.

Oh yes, IIRC (I'm not a bible historian, duh) the original texts were written
mostly in Aramaic, Greek and Latin over quite a span of time and places (and
thus social and cultural contexts).

>  Thus the confusion of virgin as sexually 
> inexperienced
> with virgin which was an independent unmarried woman.
> 	Oh translators have a lot to answer for.

And from what I've read, it's a mix of:
 - translators having a reasonable grip on the languages, but missing an
   understanding of the cultural & social context the original text
   was written in and therefore mistranslating without being aware
   of it
 - translators very much having their own ideas (usually influenced by
   their own cultural and historical context) and coloring their
   "translations" with them

Correctly translating historical texts requires a lot more than "Hey,
I know that language!". Social and cultural contexts change over time
and distance and languages change too.

>> Eh, philosophers have a tendency to not be the clearest writers ...
>
> 	You don't say. No wonder i had problems with Wittginstein.  ;^)

Hehe.

Kind regards,
           Alex.
-- 
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
 looks like work."                                      -- Thomas A. Edison

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#78512

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
Message-ID<10h784c$bff0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78502
On 12/8/25 08:26, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> 	Actually the stories in the Bible were originally recounted in Aramic
>> which was then translated to Greek.
> 
> Oh yes, IIRC (I'm not a bible historian, duh) the original texts were written
> mostly in Aramaic, Greek and Latin over quite a span of time and places (and
> thus social and cultural contexts).

This thread got me interested enough to look up "Septuagint" on 
Wikipedia. The story was that one of the Ptolomies gathered 72 Jewish 
scholars in Alexandria to translate the Talmud into Greek for his 
library, but apparently this is not true, but however it was done, there 
was a Greek translation.

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#78516

FromRich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Date2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
Message-ID<mdd8qfcoewi.fsf@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#78512
Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> writes:

> This thread got me interested enough to look up "Septuagint" on 
> Wikipedia. The story was that one of the Ptolomies gathered 72 Jewish 
> scholars in Alexandria to translate the Talmud into Greek for his 
> library, but apparently this is not true, but however it was done, there 
> was a Greek translation.

TaNaKh (Torah, chronicles, and prophets), rather than the Talmud.

The myth was that all of the scholars produced the same translation (i.e., a
miracle happened).

The Jewish writer David Berg opined that if 70 Jewish scholars did the work,
there would be 140 versions...

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#78688

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
Message-ID<p35o0mxdhs.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#78516
On 2025-12-08 22:13, Rich Alderson wrote:
> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> writes:
> 
>> This thread got me interested enough to look up "Septuagint" on
>> Wikipedia. The story was that one of the Ptolomies gathered 72 Jewish
>> scholars in Alexandria to translate the Talmud into Greek for his
>> library, but apparently this is not true, but however it was done, there
>> was a Greek translation.
> 
> TaNaKh (Torah, chronicles, and prophets), rather than the Talmud.
> 
> The myth was that all of the scholars produced the same translation (i.e., a
> miracle happened).
> 
> The Jewish writer David Berg opined that if 70 Jewish scholars did the work,
> there would be 140 versions...
> 

:-D

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#78531

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
Message-ID<mpp7k7F4g71U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78512
On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 12:15:24 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> This thread got me interested enough to look up "Septuagint" on
> Wikipedia. The story was that one of the Ptolomies gathered 72 Jewish
> scholars in Alexandria to translate the Talmud into Greek for his
> library, but apparently this is not true, but however it was done, there
> was a Greek translation.

https://biblehub.com/nehemiah/13-24.htm

"And half of their children spoke the language of Ashdod, and could not 
speak the language of Judah, but spoke according to the language of one or 
the other people."

Koine Greek was the lingua franca, and many spoke Aramaic. Having a Greek 
translation was handy when many people no longer could speak or read 
Hebrew. 

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#78530

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
Message-ID<mpp70eF4g71U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78502
On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 16:26:57 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote:

>  - translators very much having their own ideas (usually influenced by
>    their own cultural and historical context) and coloring their
>    "translations" with them

Luther's first edition didn't include the Epistle of James. 

https://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/james/2/17-26?ssi=0

Saying that faith without works is empty goes against the sola fide 
doctrine. Can't have that.

The 'Apocrypha' also was questionable. Second Maccabees suggests prayers 
for the dead are effective. Can't have that either.


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#78442 — Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi]

FromRich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Date2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
SubjectGreek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi]
Message-ID<mddv7ihswyn.fsf_-_@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#78439
Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> writes:

> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an
> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language
> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke and it
> conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so
> they needed the clergy as "interpreters".

Oh, wrong on so many planes.

The Christian part of "the Bible" (which in English subsumes both Hebrew and
Aramaic texts inherited from the Jews, and Greek originals written beginning
c. 70CE about an Aramaic speaking individual from Judaea, using stories
borrowed from various West Asian inspired "mystery" religions) was *translated*
into Latin in the 4th Century CE *because that was the language of the populace
of western Europe*.

This translation was made not to *obscure* but to *illuminate* the scriptures
for people who could not read the original Greek.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#78446

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
Message-ID<10h5a1j$3rsmf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78439
In comp.os.linux.misc Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He
>>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin
>>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had limited
>>>> utility in later life.
>>> 
>>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for starters,
>>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived (Romance) languages.
>>
>> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics, 
>> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that 
>> language of an educated  European.
> 
> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an
> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language
> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke and it
> conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so
> they needed the clergy as "interpreters".

The reason is likely simpler than that.  Most books of the Bible are 
very old, predating modern languages.  So it could only have been 
originally written down using a written language that existed at the 
time of that writing.  At the time, the choices might have been Latin 
and/or Greek as languages, and given the impact the Romans had on the 
proto religion that came to be known as Christanity, and the Romans 
subsequent embrace of the same, having the bible books written in (or 
translated into -- the more likely possibility) Latin because of the 
Roman empire embrace of Christanity is much more likely the reason than 
the "elites" wanting to be sure the mere peasants could not read it.

Of course, once Christanity spread across Europe, the elites 
maintaining their elite status by keeping the bible in a language only 
spoken by the "properly educated highbrows" clearly is why it remained 
untranslated to other languages for so long.

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#78475

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
Message-ID<10h62iv$r4s$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78446
On 08/12/2025 01:35, Rich wrote:
> So it could only have been
> originally written down using a written language that existed at the
> time of that writing.  At the time, the choices might have been Latin
> and/or Greek as languages, and given the impact the Romans had on the
> proto religion that came to be known as Christanity, and the Romans
> subsequent embrace of the same, having the bible books written in (or
> translated into -- the more likely possibility) Latin because of the
> Roman empire embrace of Christanity is much more likely the reason than
> the "elites" wanting to be sure the mere peasants could not read it.

Originally in Aramaic and Hebrew.

Not Latin.

And IIRC translated first into Greek.

And finally into the King James English version which is taken as The 
One True Word Of God by an awful lot of people.

-- 
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to 
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

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#78493

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
Message-ID<830j0mxn2u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#78446
On 2025-12-08 02:35, Rich wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He
>>>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin
>>>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had limited
>>>>> utility in later life.
>>>>
>>>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for starters,
>>>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived (Romance) languages.
>>>
>>> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics,
>>> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that
>>> language of an educated  European.
>>
>> The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an
>> educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language
>> the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke and it
>> conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so
>> they needed the clergy as "interpreters".
> 
> The reason is likely simpler than that.  Most books of the Bible are
> very old, predating modern languages.  So it could only have been
> originally written down using a written language that existed at the
> time of that writing.  At the time, the choices might have been Latin
> and/or Greek as languages, and given the impact the Romans had on the
> proto religion that came to be known as Christanity, and the Romans
> subsequent embrace of the same, having the bible books written in (or
> translated into -- the more likely possibility) Latin because of the
> Roman empire embrace of Christanity is much more likely the reason than
> the "elites" wanting to be sure the mere peasants could not read it.
> 
> Of course, once Christanity spread across Europe, the elites
> maintaining their elite status by keeping the bible in a language only
> spoken by the "properly educated highbrows" clearly is why it remained
> untranslated to other languages for so long.

I have a catholic bible in 6 thick tomes from about 1850 which has one 
column in latin, taken from the vulgata, and another column in Spanish. 
Then the bottom half are foot notes.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#78532

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
Message-ID<mppb8qF4g71U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78493
On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 14:23:20 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I have a catholic bible in 6 thick tomes from about 1850 which has one
> column in latin, taken from the vulgata, and another column in Spanish.
> Then the bottom half are foot notes.

The Douay-Rheims is a translation of the Vulgate. Pius XII suggested a new 
translation from the Hebrew and Greek that resulted in the Jerusalem 
Bible, which is the one I have. The first version was in French but that 
spurred an English translation. The editors of the New Jerusalem Bible 
thought the Jerusalem Bible was more a translation from French than the 
original sources and tried again. Then there was the Revised New Jerusalem 
Bible that was supposed to be more literal but had gender inclusive 
language. 

Will the real bible please stand up?

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#78535

FromEli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Date2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
Message-ID<eli$2512082325@qaz.wtf>
In reply to#78532
In comp.os.linux.misc, rbowman  <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> The Douay-Rheims is a translation of the Vulgate. Pius XII suggested a new 
> translation from the Hebrew and Greek that resulted in the Jerusalem 
> Bible, which is the one I have. The first version was in French but that 
> spurred an English translation. The editors of the New Jerusalem Bible 
> thought the Jerusalem Bible was more a translation from French than the 
> original sources and tried again. Then there was the Revised New Jerusalem 
> Bible that was supposed to be more literal but had gender inclusive 
> language. 
> 
> Will the real bible please stand up?

I think it predates version control. Definitely predates Linux.

It is amazing to me how far off-topic this group gets.

Have you considered taking it to misc.misc?

Elijah
------
resisting the urge to put something on the Followup-To header line

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#78536

Fromted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Date2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
Message-ID<mppnv2F71vrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78535
In article <eli$2512082325@qaz.wtf>,
Eli the Bearded  <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc, rbowman  <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> The Douay-Rheims is a translation of the Vulgate. Pius XII suggested a new 
>> translation from the Hebrew and Greek that resulted in the Jerusalem 
>> Bible, which is the one I have. The first version was in French but that 
>> spurred an English translation. The editors of the New Jerusalem Bible 
>> thought the Jerusalem Bible was more a translation from French than the 
>> original sources and tried again. Then there was the Revised New Jerusalem 
>> Bible that was supposed to be more literal but had gender inclusive 
>> language. 
>> 
>> Will the real bible please stand up?
>
>I think it predates version control. Definitely predates Linux.
>
>It is amazing to me how far off-topic this group gets.
>

I read the title as "Secret history of vi".
-- 
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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#78702

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
Message-ID<0ubo0mxe95.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#78535
On 2025-12-09 05:25, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc, rbowman  <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> The Douay-Rheims is a translation of the Vulgate. Pius XII suggested a new
>> translation from the Hebrew and Greek that resulted in the Jerusalem
>> Bible, which is the one I have. The first version was in French but that
>> spurred an English translation. The editors of the New Jerusalem Bible
>> thought the Jerusalem Bible was more a translation from French than the
>> original sources and tried again. Then there was the Revised New Jerusalem
>> Bible that was supposed to be more literal but had gender inclusive
>> language.
>>
>> Will the real bible please stand up?
> 
> I think it predates version control. Definitely predates Linux.
> 
> It is amazing to me how far off-topic this group gets.
> 
> Have you considered taking it to misc.misc?

I took a look. 80 messages since 2022-07. They stopped on 2023-09 (most 
came from google), then one on 2025-04.

> 
> Elijah
> ------
> resisting the urge to put something on the Followup-To header line

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#78714

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<10hc8ua$1knej$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78702
On 10/12/2025 14:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-12-09 05:25, Eli the Bearded wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc, rbowman  <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> The Douay-Rheims is a translation of the Vulgate. Pius XII suggested 
>>> a new
>>> translation from the Hebrew and Greek that resulted in the Jerusalem
>>> Bible, which is the one I have. The first version was in French but that
>>> spurred an English translation. The editors of the New Jerusalem Bible
>>> thought the Jerusalem Bible was more a translation from French than the
>>> original sources and tried again. Then there was the Revised New 
>>> Jerusalem
>>> Bible that was supposed to be more literal but had gender inclusive
>>> language.
>>>
>>> Will the real bible please stand up?
>>
>> I think it predates version control. Definitely predates Linux.
>>
>> It is amazing to me how far off-topic this group gets.
>>
>> Have you considered taking it to misc.misc?
> 
> I took a look. 80 messages since 2022-07. They stopped on 2023-09 (most 
> came from google), then one on 2025-04.
> 
>>
>> Elijah
>> ------
>> resisting the urge to put something on the Followup-To header line
> 
We need a new newsgroup - talking.bollocks - for idle chitchat

-- 
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and 
wrong.

H.L.Mencken

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#78737

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
Message-ID<mpuq5jF25b1U8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78714
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 16:59:54 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> We need a new newsgroup - talking.bollocks - for idle chitchat

The best part of usenet -- no gods and no masters.

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#78741

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
Message-ID<10hde40$1v538$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#78737

On 12/10/25 18:55, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 16:59:54 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> We need a new newsgroup - talking.bollocks - for idle chitchat
> 
> The best part of usenet -- no gods and no masters.

		Hear!  Hear!

		bliss

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#78937

Fromdrb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Date2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
Message-ID<tUmdnXMGfuqEoqH0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#78737
 > The best part of usenet -- no gods and no masters.

Oh how the Cabal have fallen.

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#79012

From"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
Message-ID<20251213155155.2d4985e133d42d1341aa8d4b@127.0.0.1>
In reply to#78937
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 16:13:13 +0000
drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) wrote:

>  > The best part of usenet -- no gods and no masters.
> 
> Oh how the Cabal have fallen.

TINC (any more)

-- 
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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#79051

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
Message-ID<Psr%Q.199388$yuY3.184370@fx45.iad>
In reply to#79012
On 2025-12-13, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 16:13:13 +0000
> drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) wrote:
>
>>> The best part of usenet -- no gods and no masters.
>> 
>> Oh how the Cabal have fallen.
>
> TINC (any more)

    The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled
    was convincing the world he didn't exist.
      -- The Usual Suspects

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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