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| Started by | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| First post | 2025-05-21 20:17 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-06-03 18:09 +0200 |
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Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 20:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-21 22:42 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-21 13:47 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 22:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:30 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 04:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 05:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-24 11:44 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 11:26 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-24 12:20 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 22:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:17 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-25 09:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 11:44 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-25 18:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:22 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:37 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:39 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 01:46 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-25 14:42 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:44 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:31 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:52 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:38 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 01:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 18:55 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:21 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:01 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:40 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:07 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:02 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:54 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:55 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:39 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 13:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:00 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:22 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:36 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:21 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 04:47 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:43 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 17:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:08 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:46 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 15:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 11:53 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:40 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:53 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:56 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:15 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:24 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:39 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:02 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 09:26 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 10:44 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 10:01 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 13:46 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 03:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:02 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:54 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-31 01:25 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-30 23:37 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:31 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 09:48 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-01 00:21 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 17:47 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 06:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 00:09 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 13:47 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 02:12 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 22:38 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-04 14:34 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-04 14:53 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:19 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:43 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 12:26 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 21:23 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 15:13 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 15:53 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:59 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 20:24 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 04:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 08:58 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:40 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:30 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:46 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 23:20 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:49 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:27 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 08:58 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:49 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:38 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:41 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:28 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:38 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:18 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-01 06:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:51 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:25 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:01 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 17:54 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 01:52 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:47 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:53 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:52 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:45 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:36 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:04 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:23 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:09 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:18 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:46 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:36 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-05-29 13:10 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:50 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:50 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 19:18 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 23:40 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:55 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:47 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 05:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 02:04 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:30 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:36 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:06 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:22 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:55 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:45 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 13:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:42 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:08 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:42 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:29 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:04 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 10:59 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 12:43 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 12:07 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 14:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:44 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-01 10:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-01 13:58 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:52 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 22:46 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 05:23 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 07:47 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-02 09:02 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:57 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 15:38 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:59 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:17 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:33 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 09:58 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 18:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:06 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:22 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:40 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:23 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-30 08:41 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 08:32 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:59 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 12:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:44 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:27 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:39 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:56 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:02 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:13 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:01 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:26 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 12:35 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:23 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:01 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:19 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:18 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 22:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 17:00 +0200
GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:36 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:32 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:24 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:54 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 08:42 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 17:37 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:15 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:50 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 13:02 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:12 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-04 08:48 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:14 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:45 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:42 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:32 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:37 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:19 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-07 07:05 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:46 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-08 00:25 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-08 08:25 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:25 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:47 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 23:05 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 15:34 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:10 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:44 +0200
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:14 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-10 09:16 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:45 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 15:03 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:09 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 10:46 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:54 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:02 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:55 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:53 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:39 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:07 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:23 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:51 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:20 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:19 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:09 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-26 01:10 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:33 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 18:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 18:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:42 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-26 18:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 20:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-27 03:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 02:05 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-27 12:45 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:48 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 05:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:33 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:07 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:37 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:28 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-27 17:08 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 01:28 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:08 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:59 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:37 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 14:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:53 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:20 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:54 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:35 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:38 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:42 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:03 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:38 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:38 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:57 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:23 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:37 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:33 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:12 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 23:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 00:41 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 22:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:07 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 22:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 23:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-31 19:06 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:33 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:03 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 10:08 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:50 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:26 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:45 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:02 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:08 +0000
OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:40 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:45 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:07 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 12:58 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:02 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:16 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:13 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 18:46 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:41 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 05:04 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:52 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 20:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:23 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:11 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 06:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:02 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:20 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:56 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:36 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 19:10 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 09:41 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:36 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-08 17:41 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:27 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:26 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:28 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:01 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:26 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-04 06:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:50 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 01:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:05 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 07:20 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:41 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 08:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:17 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 09:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:56 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-03 00:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:44 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:12 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:17 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:06 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:22 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:22 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:49 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:28 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:22 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:11 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:09 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:30 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:02 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 04:12 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-03 15:50 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:09 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 21:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:16 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:45 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 22:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:32 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:19 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 15:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 16:40 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:47 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 21:24 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-03 00:54 -0400
OT: fascism, far-right (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:46 +0100
Re: OT: fascism, far-right Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:20 -0400
Re: OT: fascism, far-right Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-04 13:37 +0000
Re: OT: fascism, far-right The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 15:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 00:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-27 15:24 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:08 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-28 14:52 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:20 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 23:19 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:36 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:16 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:30 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:32 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-05-21 18:29 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 23:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-05-21 23:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 01:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:34 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:32 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 00:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-22 16:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 22:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-22 23:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-23 06:41 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 08:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-05-23 04:03 -0500
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 09:17 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-23 23:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-05-24 07:39 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-05-24 10:27 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:55 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-05-22 21:04 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-24 13:47 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:45 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-06-03 18:00 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-06-03 18:09 +0200
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-29 19:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m9rpqmF8ss8U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67894 |
On Thu, 29 May 2025 11:06:14 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>On Wed, 28 May 2025 12:06:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>> I was reading some discussion on the Fedora forum for devs, about >>> removing X11. Linux's big problem, is that developers just don't >>> really consider end users, but themselves and their vision. >> >>Ubuntu 26.04 is supposed to be Wayland only. No more xclock! > > There is ONE Feature I miss with wayland and it is not xclock or xeyes. At on time QGIS popped a warning some dialogs might behave oddly on Wayland but that's been fixed. That's the only time I noticed. When the X11 versus Wayland discussions became heated I had to investigate what was running on my boxes. Wayland, okay, everything works. systemd versus initd is the same for me. 'shutdown' calls systemd; okay, whatever.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-29 12:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn103gjg4.19bc.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #67862 |
On 2025-05-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2025 12:06:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > >> I was reading some discussion on the Fedora forum for devs, about >> removing X11. Linux's big problem, is that developers just don't really >> consider end users, but themselves and their vision. > > Ubuntu 26.04 is supposed to be Wayland only. No more xclock! Wayland only? Or Wayland just by default? I can imagine that X11 won't be part of the base install, but are they removing it completely? I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-29 13:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1019l0j$3s6rv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67909 |
On 29/05/2025 13:07, Borax Man wrote: > I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable. I'm sticking with it until everything I want to do runs on Wayland. I don't *like* X11. But it now just about works OK It uses a lot of memory for what it is. Lord knows how much CPU it munches just moving windows around -- The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-05-30 08:41 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <6838e29d@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #67913 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 29/05/2025 13:07, Borax Man wrote: >> I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable. > > I'm sticking with it until everything I want to do runs on Wayland. > > I don't *like* X11. But it now just about works OK I like it, but I'm less convinced about more recent changes in Xorg which seem to make it slower and less capable at the same time. > It uses a lot of memory for what it is. TinyX doesn't use much and it's still maintained separately by a couple of forks. Faster to start too. Although graphics drivers are outdated. > Lord knows how much CPU it munches just moving windows around If you're using a GPU driver with Xorg then most of that processing should be done on there. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-30 08:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwvbjra8sfx.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #67947 |
not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) writes: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Lord knows how much CPU it munches just moving windows around > > If you're using a GPU driver with Xorg then most of that processing > should be done on there. Yes, and (although GUIs aren’t really my thing) I think it’d be next to no additional effort even for the GPU - just change the location it copies the window to, in the next frame. They are designed for video games and and do real-time raytracing, GUIs are easy mode... -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-30 11:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <101c31r$ei1k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67913 |
On 5/29/25 13:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 29/05/2025 13:07, Borax Man wrote: >> I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable. > > I'm sticking with it until everything I want to do runs on Wayland. > I had to go with Wayland. TV/Video acceleration on Armbian (AArch64) required it for Gnome. It seems OK, apart from I still can't run an RDP server (RDP client is fine). I can run an RDP server from X64 Wayland. X windows was a cool idea, running a window remotely, but I can't remember using it much. So the change made very little difference to me. > I don't *like* X11. But it now just about works OK > > It uses a lot of memory for what it is. > > Lord knows how much CPU it munches just moving windows around > I think it was the NextStation circa 1990 that first dragged whole windows rather than outlines, I think computers have gotten better at it since then.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-30 12:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <101c4ba$f2ur$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67986 |
On 30/05/2025 11:59, Pancho wrote: > On 5/29/25 13:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 29/05/2025 13:07, Borax Man wrote: >>> I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable. >> >> I'm sticking with it until everything I want to do runs on Wayland. >> > > I had to go with Wayland. TV/Video acceleration on Armbian (AArch64) > required it for Gnome. > > It seems OK, apart from I still can't run an RDP server (RDP client is > fine). I can run an RDP server from X64 Wayland. > > X windows was a cool idea, running a window remotely, but I can't > remember using it much. So the change made very little difference to me. > I tried it once. Too damned slow for video >> I don't *like* X11. But it now just about works OK >> >> It uses a lot of memory for what it is. >> >> Lord knows how much CPU it munches just moving windows around >> > > I think it was the NextStation circa 1990 that first dragged whole > windows rather than outlines, I think computers have gotten better at it > since then. Well as Richard pointed out, its strictly GPU doing the munching. And that's what they are designed to do. I have to say on this *86 they move as fast as they need to... -- “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-30 18:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m9uckgFla7eU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67986 |
On Fri, 30 May 2025 11:59:07 +0100, Pancho wrote: > X windows was a cool idea, running a window remotely, but I can't > remember using it much. So the change made very little difference to me. We used it legitimately to run on AIX and display the GUIs on the Linux box. Not so legitimately we could screw with each other.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-30 12:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn103ja5r.325.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #67913 |
On 2025-05-29, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 29/05/2025 13:07, Borax Man wrote: >> I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable. > > I'm sticking with it until everything I want to do runs on Wayland. > > I don't *like* X11. But it now just about works OK > > It uses a lot of memory for what it is. > > Lord knows how much CPU it munches just moving windows around > X11 has issues, but it works, and has powered Unix GUI's for decades. I find it useful, and if it is inefficient, it hasn't been that much of an issue. Likewise, I'll be happy to go to Wayland, when doing so is almost seamless. As of now, I think I could use it, but all the DE's/window Managers that I would want to use are X11.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 12:27 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <683a690e@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #67992 |
Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > X11 has issues, but it works, and has powered Unix GUI's for decades. > > I find it useful, and if it is inefficient, it hasn't been that much of > an issue. It's efficient enough to run fine on the Pentium 1 PC I'm posting from now. > Likewise, I'll be happy to go to Wayland, when doing so is almost > seamless. > > As of now, I think I could use it, but all the DE's/window Managers that > I would want to use are X11. Almost all the graphical programs I use regularly don't support Wayland because they either use an old graphics toolkit that doesn't support it (GTK2, Motif) or don't use a graphics toolkit at all and link directly to xlib. So even if I saw a reason to switch, I'd have to change most of the software I use (likely to slower alternatives) or I'd be running everything in XWayland anyway. Luckily I don't do graphics intensive stuff so if people stop writing GPU drivers for X it won't affect me, and I can do the work of building it myself (with patches if required) if distros stop packaging it. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 02:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <101dqb6$tefk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68043 |
On 31 May 2025 12:27:26 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Almost all the graphical programs I use regularly don't support > Wayland because they either use an old graphics toolkit that > doesn't support it (GTK2, Motif) or don't use a graphics toolkit > at all and link directly to xlib. Really? Which programs are these? I use a range of graphical programs, such as Blender, Inkscape and GIMP, and all those work fine under Wayland.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 13:39 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <683a7a0e@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #68044 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On 31 May 2025 12:27:26 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>
>> Almost all the graphical programs I use regularly don't support
>> Wayland because they either use an old graphics toolkit that
>> doesn't support it (GTK2, Motif) or don't use a graphics toolkit
>> at all and link directly to xlib.
>
> Really? Which programs are these?
Motif:
Nedit, Xpopple/Xpdf (I don't like Qt)
GTK1/2:
Sylpheed, xzgv, XMMS (v1), Emelfm, Ted (also builds for Motif)
xlib:
Xfig, GV, Links, (u)rxvt, JWM, Siag (OK this one is already buggy
in newer X)
These are the only Wayland-supported programs I use often:
Firefox, Dillo, mtPaint, LibreOffice (when I can't avoid it)
> I use a range of graphical programs, such as Blender, Inkscape
> and GIMP, and all those work fine under Wayland.
I don't use any of those, although I've tried and dismissed
Inkscape and GIMP a long time ago. You'll probably rant that I
should use them instead of the older programs I choose to use. But
why? They work. If I have time to waste trying to find alternatives
then the ones I'm most unhappy with are Firefox and LibreOffice, so
I'd start there anyway.
--
__ __
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 04:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <101e1p5$ucpf$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68053 |
On 31 May 2025 13:39:58 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > ... I've tried and dismissed Inkscape and GIMP a long time ago. I really don’t understand that. Inkscape is a wonderful design tool for resolution-independent graphics, and its native format is SVG, which is the standard format for vector graphics online. And GIMP has better support for deep pixels than even Adobe can manage. Both have good Python APIs for automation/extension purposes -- and so does Blender, of course. Blender also now has “Grease Pencil” functionality which is encroaching into Synfig territory, and possibly Inkscape as well. And it’s not limited to 2D in either case.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 17:56 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <683ab63f@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #68056 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On 31 May 2025 13:39:58 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> ... I've tried and dismissed Inkscape and GIMP a long time ago. > > I really don't understand that. Inkscape is a wonderful design tool for > resolution-independent graphics, and its native format is SVG, which is > the standard format for vector graphics online. Too big, complicated, way more than I need as a non-artist. > And GIMP has better support for deep pixels than even Adobe can manage. Dunno what a "deep pixel" is. MtPaint does more than I need already, GIMP does many times what I need to the point that I can't find what I need. > Both have good Python APIs for automation/extension purposes Image editing can be automated with scripts calling ImageMagick, and Xfig can export to Postscript which can be edited using scripts as well. > and so does Blender, of course. > > Blender also now has "Grease Pencil" functionality which is encroaching > into Synfig territory, and possibly Inkscape as well. And it's not limited > to 2D in either case. Umm OK, I don't do animation in the first place. The thing to understand is that I don't aspire to be any sort of graphic artist, so I don't want to learn their tools if I've got easier, smaller, alternatives available. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 08:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <101eedj$112mr$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68075 |
On 31 May 2025 17:56:47 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >> Inkscape is a wonderful design tool for resolution-independent >> graphics, and its native format is SVG, which is the standard >> format for vector graphics online. > > Too big, complicated, way more than I need as a non-artist. I wouldn’t consider myself an “artist”, either. But I haven’t found Inkscape complicated at all. Even the SVG format is sufficiently comprehensible that I have written entire files of it by hand. >> And GIMP has better support for deep pixels than even Adobe can >> manage. > > Dunno what a "deep pixel" is. More than 8 bits for each of the R, G, B, A components. >> Both have good Python APIs for automation/extension purposes > > Image editing can be automated with scripts calling ImageMagick ... I use that too. Also G’MIC, MyPaint and Krita (occasionally), plus some custom Python scripts using Cairo graphics. > and Xfig can export to Postscript which can be edited using scripts > as well. SVG or PDF would be a better choice for an editable output format. PostScript is considered so much of a museum piece that Adobe, who created the language and many of its implementations to begin with, no longer makes the documentation available on its website. Think about that: Adobe cannot be bothered with PostScript any more. > Umm OK, I don't do animation in the first place. I have done it for the occasional presentation. Beats the pants off PowerPoint, that’s for sure.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 11:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <101ek3m$126kd$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68075 |
On 31/05/2025 08:56, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > The thing to > understand is that I don't aspire to be any sort of graphic artist, > so I don't want to learn their tools if I've got easier, smaller, > alternatives available. At last. A pragmatic attitude. I find Gimp impenetrable, but I use it to do the things I cant do any other way, having mapped out the One True Path through the forest of menus... ...but wait till you try Blender.... -- In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act. - George Orwell
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-02 09:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20250602091348.00007738@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68086 |
On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:02:30 +0100 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > I find Gimp impenetrable, but I use it to do the things I cant do any > other way, having mapped out the One True Path through the forest of > menus... > > ...but wait till you try Blender.... GIMP is deeply frustrating because it's a lot of very solid technical functionality married to a cargo-cult version of the Photoshop UI - it's *almost* a wholly satisfactory replacement for a major piece of proprietary software (and one from a pretty odious, draconian outfit, at that,) but that "almost" spans a pretty significant gap in workflow efficiency and overall UX polish. Blender I looked at once and ran screaming for the hills. Whatever tri-lobed space aliens designed that interface can *have* it.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-03 00:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <101lfch$3j9qp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68173 |
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 09:13:48 -0700, John Ames wrote: > GIMP is deeply frustrating because it's a lot of very solid technical > functionality married to a cargo-cult version of the Photoshop UI ... That’s strange, isn’t it, since most of the Adobe-lovers who don’t like GIMP primarily say it’s because its UI is too different from Photoshop. You think it would be better if it were *more* different? (As if large parts of what is nowadays associated with the Photoshop UI is in fact original with Photoshop ...) > Blender I looked at once and ran screaming for the hills. Whatever > tri-lobed space aliens designed that interface can *have* it. Blender is getting a lot of industry funding, you may notice. Some major users getting a bit dissatisfied with the proprietary offerings ... ? It’s about the only major app left that covers all the main parts of the DCC pipeline in a single, integrated workflow. Proprietary tools (Maya etc) are all turning into specialists that only deal with parts of the work, so then you have the job of trying to try to get several different (and expensive) apps to interoperate according to their particular interpretations of what are supposed to be “industry standard” formats and protocols.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-06-03 07:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <101m0ub$2hp4j$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #68190 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 09:13:48 -0700, John Ames wrote: > >> GIMP is deeply frustrating because it's a lot of very solid technical >> functionality married to a cargo-cult version of the Photoshop UI ... > >That’s strange, isn’t it, since most of the Adobe-lovers who don’t like >GIMP primarily say it’s because its UI is too different from Photoshop. So it is similar enough so that non-experts see a similarity, and different enough that it's too different for photoshop fans. That is rather normal. When you're _really_ acquainted with a software you search for reasons for not having to use the alternative, and chain yourself to features that the alternative doesn't have even if they're not THAT vital for you. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-03 09:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <101mbar$3sucd$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68210 |
On 03/06/2025 06:24, Marc Haber wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 09:13:48 -0700, John Ames wrote: >> >>> GIMP is deeply frustrating because it's a lot of very solid technical >>> functionality married to a cargo-cult version of the Photoshop UI ... >> >> That’s strange, isn’t it, since most of the Adobe-lovers who don’t like >> GIMP primarily say it’s because its UI is too different from Photoshop. > > So it is similar enough so that non-experts see a similarity, and > different enough that it's too different for photoshop fans. > > That is rather normal. When you're _really_ acquainted with a software > you search for reasons for not having to use the alternative, and > chain yourself to features that the alternative doesn't have even if > they're not THAT vital for you. > Well there is nothing wrong in that. My beef with programs like GIMP and blender is that huge amounts of effort go into the cunning 'features' that they have, and almost none into some sort of vaguely consistent way to access those features, or explain why you might want to use them or help you use them. To be fair that is true of all *nix derived OS and tools. The manual tells you how to use every last feature, but not why you might want to. I still use CorelDraw because it has a pretty simple and intuitive UI given what it does. And it once came with a video tape showing how to use it. A tape that actually corresponded with what you saw on screen. Too often You Tube videos apply to the version you don't have on an OS you don't have that simply doesn't have the same menus. Or worse has configurable menus that someone has configured. The learning curve for any technology loaded with 'features' is massive. Even stuff that is supposed to be simple. My android phone occasionally needs attention. No online help has EVER reflected the reality of the version i seem to have. Its the same with Linux. You install a new version, It has some issues that need attention. But what is online applies to previous versions that you already have sorted out. The solutions are to edit files that do not exist on your version, because someone has 'rationalised them' And the new issues arise because someone has changed default behaviour because 'that's progressive and modern' e.g. We will make your default to be IPV6 enabled even though no one is actually using it Or systemd. Or Wayland. And break every program that doesn't have a team of coders willing to spend the man hours 'catching up' and porting their code to the latest new shiny thing. Its all very MCP like "Fuck the users, we are the cool people" That's why stupid people like Apple. They spend the time on a user interface, insist that its the only way to use it, and document it. So its easy for stupid people to use it. And stupid people have money. Lots of it. > Greetings > Marc -- “when things get difficult you just have to lie” ― Jean Claud Jüncker
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