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| First post | 2026-03-03 06:54 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-04-01 14:03 +0100 |
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GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 06:54 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-02 23:23 -0800
Re: GNU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-03 02:52 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 10:55 +0000
Re: GNU Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-03-03 10:59 +0000
Re: GNU Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-03-03 13:24 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-03 14:55 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-03 18:50 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 11:13 -0800
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 02:56 +0000
Re: GNU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 00:12 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 11:52 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:00 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 08:01 -0800
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-04 17:06 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 09:11 -0800
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:18 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 19:05 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-04 19:37 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:16 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-05 02:52 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 21:00 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-05 23:49 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:22 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 11:03 +1100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:10 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:23 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 17:00 +0100
Re: GNU Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-06 12:08 -0500
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:21 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 09:59 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-07 06:36 +0200
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 18:54 -0600
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:12 +0100
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 20:45 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 01:11 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 03:06 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:12 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:16 +0100
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 10:00 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 20:41 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 21:27 +0000
Re: GNU richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-06 21:32 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 21:46 +0000
Re: GNU "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-03-06 21:56 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-07 09:10 +1100
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-06 22:25 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 17:06 -0800
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 05:52 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 07:14 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:25 +0000
Re: GNU Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2026-03-07 08:50 -0800
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 15:11 -0600
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 22:54 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:40 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:13 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 21:43 -0800
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 18:16 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-08 09:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 11:57 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 15:08 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:13 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:12 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:13 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 14:01 -0800
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:44 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:22 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:26 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:01 -0500
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:19 +1100
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 05:59 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 19:27 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 09:20 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:10 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 17:26 -0700
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 07:47 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-09 21:09 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 13:56 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 02:58 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 04:34 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 14:36 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:36 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-07 06:43 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 15:38 +1100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-06 08:17 +0100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:57 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-06 10:06 +0000
Re: GNU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-06 18:24 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:21 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 11:26 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:04 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:23 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 23:07 -0600
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-05 23:14 -0600
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-06 05:17 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:20 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 16:30 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-06 06:23 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 17:38 +1100
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 08:58 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-06 22:47 +1100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 12:48 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:33 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:44 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 14:34 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-07 12:20 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:41 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:55 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:46 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 16:12 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:20 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:53 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:12 -0500
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 21:31 -0500
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 14:35 +1100
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-08 12:26 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 09:28 +1100
Re: GNU Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-03-07 14:03 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 14:16 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:51 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:52 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:45 +0000
Re: GNU Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 21:32 -0500
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:54 +0100
Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-03-07 14:02 +0000
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 22:52 +0000
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-08 14:27 +0100
Re: Rødgrød med fløde på - keyboards (Re: GNU) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:39 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 11:44 -0600
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:41 +1100
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-08 21:00 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-06 22:49 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 04:32 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-07 15:50 +1100
Re: GNU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-07 11:02 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 21:56 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:50 +1100
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-08 02:06 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-08 19:30 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:31 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-07 12:22 +0100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 12:46 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:01 +0100
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:57 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 13:48 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:13 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:07 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 07:33 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 07:36 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 09:06 +0100
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-08 20:35 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-07 13:59 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 14:03 +0000
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:10 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-07 15:16 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 08:49 -0800
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-07 15:06 -0600
Re: GNU richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-03-07 21:30 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 16:35 -0500
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:34 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 20:10 -0500
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:55 -0700
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-09 00:27 +0000
Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-08 22:02 -0600
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 16:12 -0800
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 01:05 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-07 21:30 -0800
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 16:52 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-08 14:28 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:32 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:21 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-08 09:59 +1100
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 09:43 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 23:27 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-07 23:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-07 22:40 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 07:39 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 07:39 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-08 09:12 +0100
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 08:59 -0400
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 17:44 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-08 11:42 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 17:52 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 19:51 +0000
Re: GNU Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:23 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-08 20:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 13:59 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:32 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:46 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-09 10:02 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:19 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 14:04 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 20:52 +0000
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-09 23:57 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 00:31 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 05:00 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-09 22:48 +1300
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-09 10:14 +0100
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-10 09:32 +0200
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 09:10 -0700
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-09 01:16 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 00:58 +0000
Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 01:07 -0400
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 06:22 +0000
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-09 08:00 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 10:09 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-09 06:16 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-09 06:24 +0000
Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-09 06:54 +0000
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-09 07:37 +0000
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-10 09:37 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-10 10:37 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-11 10:09 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-10 13:25 +0000
Re: GNU Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-10 14:26 +0000
Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-10 19:35 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-10 15:49 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:54 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 12:07 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 12:11 +1100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 07:07 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 07:50 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-16 22:03 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:00 +0000
Re: GNU Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-17 18:08 +0000
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:28 +0000
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-16 10:36 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-16 08:58 +0100
Re: GNU Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:28 +0000
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-16 09:34 +1300
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-15 22:23 +0100
Re: GNU Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 23:38 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-15 21:24 -0700
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 12:56 +0000
Re: GNU Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-16 12:27 +0000
Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-15 22:27 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 13:29 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 06:29 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-16 17:52 +1100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-16 00:32 -0700
Re: GNU Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-16 12:41 +0000
Re: GNU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 08:55 -0700
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-17 10:03 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 01:01 +0000
Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-17 08:18 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 19:03 +0000
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-17 12:27 -0700
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Re: GNU Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-03-17 22:18 +0100
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Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:27 +0100
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Re: GNU "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-04-03 12:21 +0200
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Re: OT Train travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 13:47 +0200
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Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-04-02 20:29 +0100
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Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 08:15 +0200
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:21 +0100
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 14:32 +0200
Re: Steamrollers (was Re: GNU) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:58 -0400
Re: Steamrollers nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-04 11:07 +0200
Re: Steamrollers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:42 +0200
Re: Steamrollers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:22 -0400
Re: Steamrollers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:34 +0000
Re: Steamrollers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:32 +0000
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Re: chip and seal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:46 +0100
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Re: chip and seal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-06 13:17 +0200
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Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-02 13:52 -0700
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-04-04 01:47 +0100
Re: GNU Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:33 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 09:56 +0100
Re: GNU Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-04-03 22:04 +1300
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:32 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 23:56 +0200
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 05:29 +0000
School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-02 05:33 +0200
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Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-03 07:16 +0200
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:45 +0100
Re: School stories Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-04-03 18:00 +0100
Re: School stories athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 18:58 +0000
Re: School stories Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 15:59 -0400
Re: School stories rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 00:35 +0000
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:26 +0100
Re: School stories Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-04-04 18:56 +0100
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:19 -0700
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-04 03:22 +0200
Re: School stories Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 23:46 -0400
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-05 05:27 +0200
Re: School stories Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 08:52 +0100
Re: School stories "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:50 +0200
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:28 -0700
Re: School stories "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:07 +0200
Re: School stories John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 07:45 -0700
Re: School stories Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-04-07 05:44 +0200
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 21:01 -0700
Re: School stories Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:24 +0000
Re: School stories Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-04 13:32 -0700
Re: School stories Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2026-04-16 23:05 -0700
Re: School stories The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:43 +0100
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:24 +0100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:29 +0000
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-04-01 11:51 +1100
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 04:40 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 22:35 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:38 +0000
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 05:35 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 21:50 +0000
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:22 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:32 +0100
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 22:39 -0700
Fountain pens (was: Re: GNU) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 07:00 +0100
Re: Fountain pens (was: Re: GNU) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:42 +0000
Re: Fountain pens c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-31 21:36 -0400
Re: Fountain pens "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:30 +0200
Re: Fountain pens Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:22 +0100
Re: Fountain pens "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:12 +0200
Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-31 20:36 +1100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:33 +0200
Re: GNU athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:39 +0000
Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:43 +0100
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:43 +0200
Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 14:41 -0700
Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 21:55 +0000
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 13:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10qrro7$v66q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85379 |
On 4/4/26 10:56, Janet wrote: > In article <1775242700-12588@newsgrouper.org>, athel.cb@gmail.com > says... >> >> Janet <nobody@home.com> posted: >> >>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>> >>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>>>>> libertarian school. >>>>> >>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>> >>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>> >>> >>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>> different British custom fagging >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >>> >> I agree. The British term for hazing was ragging. It didn't happen at Oxford >> in my time (1961?1967), not at Wadham, anyway; at least, I never heard that >> it did. My sister never reported anything of that sort at St. Andrews. However, >> it did occur in some other universities. = > > We had Rag Week, nothing to do with US hazing. > > Kipling was writing abour English Public schools; not universities. And remember what you call a Public School in the UK we call a Private School in the USA and I even went to a Private but Parochial HS. Principal form of Hazing was playing dodgeball on handball courts. I am not athletic so escaped this nonsense by simple refusal. bliss > > Janet > >
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 03:22 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <cmp0tk56r8q56lnl8enqmcn746vkh954c6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #85290 |
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >> >> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> >> >On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >> > >> >> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >> >> >> >> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >> >> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >> >> libertarian school. >> > >> >Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >> >In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >> >> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. > > > I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >different British custom fagging > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were lower than shark shit. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-03 23:46 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <ta21tktj9p0t1sbpfs44p9s1vrp6ioqok4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #85331 |
On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 03:22:38 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: > >>In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>> >>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> > >>> >> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>> >> >>> >> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >>> >> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>> >> libertarian school. >>> > >>> >Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>> >In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>> >>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >> >> >> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>different British custom fagging >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging > >I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >lower than shark shit. Happy to add to your knowledge of Americanisms: the phrase here is "lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean".
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-04-05 05:27 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <6hl3tkl35fugavrlk1nov56cpcsnqgl7ba@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #85338 |
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 23:46:32 -0400, Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 03:22:38 +0200, Steve Hayes ><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: > >>On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>>hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>> >>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>>> >> >>>> >> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >>>> >> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>>> >> libertarian school. >>>> > >>>> >Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>> >In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>> >>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>> >>> >>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>>to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>>different British custom fagging >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >> >>I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >>something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >>at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >>humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >>lower than shark shit. > > >Happy to add to your knowledge of Americanisms: the phrase here is >"lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean". Similar sentiment. Students round the world have much in common, whether they go to uni, varsity or college. But Kipling & Lewis were talking about secondary, & not tertiary educational institutions. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 08:52 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10qqg0k$gbh6$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85331 |
(Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?) On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: > >>In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>> >>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> > >>> >> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>> >> >>> >> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >>> >> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>> >> libertarian school. >>> > >>> >Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>> >In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>> >>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >> >> >> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>different British custom fagging >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging > > I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant > something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" > at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were > humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were > lower than shark shit. It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for orientation and integration purposes without harassment or humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume it's good because it can be less strong... -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 13:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <2ia7amxg4q.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #85343 |
On 2026-04-04 09:52, Nuno Silva wrote: > (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?) > > On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>> >>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>>>>> libertarian school. >>>>> >>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>> >>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>> >>> >>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>> different British custom fagging >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >> >> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >> lower than shark shit. > > It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with > "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for > orientation and integration purposes without harassment or > humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume > it's good because it can be less strong... When I was at Uni in Madrid, at the Uni itself there was none. The studies were terrifying, no need to add more pain. However, at the halls of residence (DeepL says that is the translation for "Colegio Mayor") it was a different story. At mine it was very mild. At others it was much worse. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 13:28 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10qrs9m$vbgg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85348 |
On 4/4/26 04:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-04-04 09:52, Nuno Silva wrote: >> (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to >> alt.unix.geeks?) >> >> On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The >>>>>>> Silver >>>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >>>>>>> libertarian school. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the >>>>>> older ones. >>>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual >>>>>> element. >>>>> >>>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>>> different British custom fagging >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >>> >>> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >>> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >>> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >>> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >>> lower than shark shit. >> >> It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with >> "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for >> orientation and integration purposes without harassment or >> humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume >> it's good because it can be less strong... > > When I was at Uni in Madrid, at the Uni itself there was none. The > studies were terrifying, no need to add more pain. > > However, at the halls of residence (DeepL says that is the translation > for "Colegio Mayor") it was a different story. At mine it was very mild. > At others it was much worse. > Generally hazing is done to test the Mettle of the new parties and group hazing build bonds between those who share misery. More exclusive hazing for the Franternities and Sororities of which I have no personal experience builds intensity loyalty supposedly to te Greek Letter clubs. In some of the USA's great universities like Yale and Harvard it builds bonds that are sustained for life as the members promise to support one another in their business and political lives. A very exclusive society, Skull and Bones, has contributed several presidents and other high officials to the USA. Not the worst either since Trump became president. If he had lost this present term, George Bush of the Iraq War would hold the title. bliss - HS graduate who has been reading a lot since 1955
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-05 04:07 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <7os8amxtmd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #85391 |
On 2026-04-04 22:28, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 4/4/26 04:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-04-04 09:52, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to >>> alt.unix.geeks?) >>> >>> On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>>>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public >>>>>>>> schools. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in >>>>>>>> "The Silver >>>>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was >>>>>>>> ostensibly a >>>>>>>> libertarian school. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the >>>>>>> older ones. >>>>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual >>>>>>> element. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was >>>>>> sexual >>>>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was >>>>> referring >>>>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>>>> different British custom fagging >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >>>> >>>> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >>>> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >>>> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >>>> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >>>> lower than shark shit. >>> >>> It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with >>> "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for >>> orientation and integration purposes without harassment or >>> humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume >>> it's good because it can be less strong... >> >> When I was at Uni in Madrid, at the Uni itself there was none. The >> studies were terrifying, no need to add more pain. >> >> However, at the halls of residence (DeepL says that is the translation >> for "Colegio Mayor") it was a different story. At mine it was very >> mild. At others it was much worse. >> > > Generally hazing is done to test the Mettle of the new parties and > group hazing build bonds between those who share misery. > More exclusive hazing for the Franternities and Sororities of which > I have no personal experience builds intensity loyalty supposedly to > te Greek Letter clubs. In some of the USA's great universities like > Yale and Harvard it builds bonds that are sustained for life as the > members promise to support one another in their business and > political lives. A very exclusive society, Skull and Bones, has > contributed several presidents and other high officials to the > USA. Not the worst either since Trump became president. > If he had lost this present term, George Bush of the Iraq War > would hold the title. > > bliss - HS graduate who has been reading a lot since 1955 The "uni halls of residence" where I lived broke this simply by expelling 120 of 200 students the next year. Hard to keep traditions alive. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-06 07:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <20260406074557.00003bb7@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #85391 |
On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 13:28:36 -0700 Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: > Generally hazing is done to test the Mettle of the new parties and > group hazing build bonds between those who share misery. [...] In > some of the USA's great universities like Yale and Harvard it builds > bonds that are sustained for life That's certainly the public line whenever a pledge gets killed in a dumb stunt and the traditionalists have to scramble to explain to the cops and the media how this is Fine, Actually. Sounds a lot more high- minded than "institutionalized abuse of newbies is the means by which sociopaths who get off on tormenting people find a socially-acceptable outlet for their disease." It's no friggin' wonder these people end up in politics and Management.
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-04-07 05:44 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <fuu8tk1alir683efb8p4s5krn77cgcmh78@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #85456 |
On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 07:45:57 -0700, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 13:28:36 -0700 >Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> Generally hazing is done to test the Mettle of the new parties and >> group hazing build bonds between those who share misery. [...] In >> some of the USA's great universities like Yale and Harvard it builds >> bonds that are sustained for life > >That's certainly the public line whenever a pledge gets killed in a >dumb stunt and the traditionalists have to scramble to explain to the >cops and the media how this is Fine, Actually. Sounds a lot more high- >minded than "institutionalized abuse of newbies is the means by which >sociopaths who get off on tormenting people find a socially-acceptable >outlet for their disease." > >It's no friggin' wonder these people end up in politics and Management. From a US dictionary: haze 3 of 3 verb (2) hazed; hazing transitive verb 1 a : to harass by exacting unnecessary or disagreeable work b : to harass by banter, ridicule, or criticism 2 : to play tricks on or force to do unpleasant or unsafe things as initiation haze the fraternity pledges 3 Western US : to drive (animals, such as cattle or horses) from horseback hazer noun From Wikipedia: Ragging Ragging is the term used for the so-called "initiation ritual" practiced in higher education institutions in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. The practice is similar to hazing in North America, fagging in the UK, bizutage in France, praxe in Portugal, and other similar practices in educational institutions across the world. Ragging involves abuse, humiliation, or harassment of new entrants or junior students by the senior students Continued in Wikipedia I understood "ragging" to be a synonym for "teasing" generally, and not as specifically applied to initiation rituals. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-06 21:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10r1vin$2iplv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85490 |
On 4/6/26 20:44, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 07:45:57 -0700, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 13:28:36 -0700 >> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >>> Generally hazing is done to test the Mettle of the new parties and >>> group hazing build bonds between those who share misery. [...] In >>> some of the USA's great universities like Yale and Harvard it builds >>> bonds that are sustained for life >> >> That's certainly the public line whenever a pledge gets killed in a >> dumb stunt and the traditionalists have to scramble to explain to the >> cops and the media how this is Fine, Actually. Sounds a lot more high- >> minded than "institutionalized abuse of newbies is the means by which >> sociopaths who get off on tormenting people find a socially-acceptable >> outlet for their disease." >> >> It's no friggin' wonder these people end up in politics and Management. > > From a US dictionary: > > > > haze > 3 of 3 > verb (2) > hazed; hazing > > transitive verb > 1 > a > : to harass by exacting unnecessary or disagreeable work > b > : to harass by banter, ridicule, or criticism > 2 > : to play tricks on or force to do unpleasant or unsafe things as initiation > haze the fraternity pledges > 3 > Western US : to drive (animals, such as cattle or horses) from > horseback > hazer noun > > From Wikipedia: > > Ragging > Ragging is the term used for the so-called "initiation ritual" > practiced in higher education institutions in India, Pakistan, > Bangladesh, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. The practice is similar to hazing in > North America, fagging in the UK, bizutage in France, praxe in > Portugal, and other similar practices in educational institutions > across the world. Ragging involves abuse, humiliation, or harassment > of new entrants or junior students by the senior students Continued in > Wikipedia > > I understood "ragging" to be a synonym for "teasing" generally, and > not as specifically applied to initiation rituals. > I do not think you would be wrong but that is where a lot of it is found in schools following traditions passed down within 'in groups'. bliss
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 14:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10qr6u4$obab$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85343 |
In comp.os.linux.misc Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: > (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?) > > On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>>hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>> >>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>> >In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>> >>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>> >>> >>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>>to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>>different British custom fagging >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >> >> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >> lower than shark shit. > > It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with > "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for > orientation and integration purposes without harassment or > humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume > it's good because it can be less strong... It is likely the "social clique" version of the "five monkeys experiment" <https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/games-primates-play/201203/what-monkeys-can-teach-us-about-human-behavior-facts-fiction> from business/government that is often used to explain how some long outdated process continues to remain "the policy". Because "that is the way it has always been done", even though no one doing the process, nor no one mandating the process as policy, remembers why the process was done in the way it is done. The current "social clique" members had to undergo the torture to gain their status as "in" members of the clique, so therefore all new entrants have to also undergo the same torture the current "in" members underwent in order for the new entrants to prove their worthiness for inclusion in the clique. I.e., "because we have always done it that way".
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-04 13:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10qrshi$ve5d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85360 |
On 4/4/26 07:24, Rich wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?) >> >> On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>>> >>>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>>> different British custom fagging >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >>> >>> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >>> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >>> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >>> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >>> lower than shark shit. >> >> It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with >> "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for >> orientation and integration purposes without harassment or >> humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume >> it's good because it can be less strong... > > It is likely the "social clique" version of the "five monkeys > experiment" > <https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/games-primates-play/201203/what-monkeys-can-teach-us-about-human-behavior-facts-fiction> > from business/government that is often used to explain how some long > outdated process continues to remain "the policy". Because "that is > the way it has always been done", even though no one doing the process, > nor no one mandating the process as policy, remembers why the process > was done in the way it is done. > > The current "social clique" members had to undergo the torture to gain > their status as "in" members of the clique, so therefore all new > entrants have to also undergo the same torture the current "in" members > underwent in order for the new entrants to prove their worthiness for > inclusion in the clique. I.e., "because we have always done it that > way". > Yes and that was a problem for the people at Antarctic Bases where the building crew suffered a lot and did not see why the working crew should have it any easier. I hope the Moon Base builders have better Morale. bliss
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| From | Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-16 23:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <sR-cnROPHdYGUHz0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #85360 |
On 4/4/26 7:24 AM, Rich wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?) >> >> On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>, >>>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says... >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. >>>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. >>>>> >>>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual >>>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely >>>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing, or was referring >>>> to that American activity. He was probably talking about the >>>> different British custom fagging >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging >>> >>> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant >>> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation" >>> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were >>> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were >>> lower than shark shit. >> >> It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with >> "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for >> orientation and integration purposes without harassment or >> humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume >> it's good because it can be less strong... > > It is likely the "social clique" version of the "five monkeys > experiment" > <https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/games-primates-play/201203/what-monkeys-can-teach-us-about-human-behavior-facts-fiction> > from business/government that is often used to explain how some long > outdated process continues to remain "the policy". Because "that is > the way it has always been done", even though no one doing the process, > nor no one mandating the process as policy, remembers why the process > was done in the way it is done. > > The current "social clique" members had to undergo the torture to gain > their status as "in" members of the clique, so therefore all new > entrants have to also undergo the same torture the current "in" members > underwent in order for the new entrants to prove their worthiness for > inclusion in the clique. I.e., "because we have always done it that > way". And this criminality can be broken by treating it seriously. According to recent news, a homicide caused by hazing in the Philippines was prosecuted as a murder, not manslaughter. What could the defendant say in the case 'I was strong and the victim was a weak and defenseless newbie'? That's the very definition of criminality, sadists should have no hope for sympathy.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-03 10:43 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: School stories |
| Message-ID | <10qo246$1qj4s$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85178 |
On 02/04/2026 20:33, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools. >> >> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver >> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a >> libertarian school. > > Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. > In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element. It was punishable by expulsion if it was found out. 'bestiality' (masturbation) was an expulsion event. Kipling remarks in one part how the dormitories were used as cut throughs by masters late and night and mentions that it was only years later that he realised why they were regularly and covertly patrolled... Of course there was sexual activity, then and now, Gay boys don't get to be gay from nowhere. They learn by example. And the 'hazing' was not 'hazing' - it was full on torture of a horrific kind. A large part of that book is about what it took to withstand it, and indeed the discipline of the Army life which so many would end up living. Intelligence, physical fortitude, cunning, psychology, leadership - all these were necessary adjuncts to running an Empire and keeping the tribes in order in India etc. And the schools were there to shape character and attitude as much as to impart academic knowledge. Harry Potters Hogwarts is a sort of dim echo of the British Public School... -- WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-31 19:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10qh3gk$3iibq$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84894 |
On 31/03/2026 18:41, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-03-31 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 31/03/2026 09:20, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 03:19:41 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I can not imagine what a group of restless kids would do with >>>> bottles of >>>> ink at their disposal. >>> >>> Great for dipping pigtails I'm told. >> >> Great for dipping blotting paper to form unique munitions for rubber >> band catapults. Young boys will find ways to use anything to hand to >> create havoc. >> > > Uff. And ruin clothes. No, we did not do anything that nasty, that I > remember. > > We had battles, shooting rice with the tubes of our Bic ballpens. If we > had not rice, we made do with paper. Without ink! :-D > We discovered that paper well chewed had the best range and accuracy, but tinfoil hurt more... Fencing with regulation issue rulers was well liked. -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-31 20:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n32p5tFhr5bU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #84894 |
On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 19:41:20 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > We had battles, shooting rice with the tubes of our Bic ballpens. If we > had not rice, we made do with paper. Without ink! :-D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peashooter_(toy) Outside of the school environment airsoft battles are popular. Airsoft replicas were popularized by the Japanese and a real improvement over BB guns for force on force engagements and are less trouble than paintballs.
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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
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| Date | 2026-04-01 11:51 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10qhq61$3qcvs$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84910 |
On 01/04/26 07:29, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 19:41:20 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > >> We had battles, shooting rice with the tubes of our Bic ballpens. >> If we had not rice, we made do with paper. Without ink! :-D > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peashooter_(toy) > > Outside of the school environment airsoft battles are popular. > Airsoft replicas were popularized by the Japanese and a real > improvement over BB guns for force on force engagements and are less > trouble than paintballs. We made our own guns from wood and large rubber bands. The rubber bands were cut from car inner tubes. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-31 04:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n311htF9vd6U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #84750 |
On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 16:49:06 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Can but agree. I grew up with the older style desk in all my schools > and am grateful because I took lots of notes. But curiously in the > 1940s there were no ballpoint pens or other modern writing tools so the > groove held a terrible old pen and the round hole, an inkwell. Pencils > were used to practice writing on lined paper that was rather fllimsy and > we practiced with pens and used fountain pens at home to write our final > drafts. I can't remember what we used but it wasn't the inkwells. At some point I had an inexpensive cartridge fountain pen. I cut costs further by using a syringe to refill the cartridges from my mother's bottle of ink. I vaguely recall the ones with an internal bladder and a lever on the side. My father brought home a BIC that he had found in a shipment from France where someone had mislaid it. I thought that was pretty neat. It wasn't too much later they hit the US market.
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| From | Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-30 22:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mn.f54b7ea314e10a6d.127094@snitoo> |
| In reply to | #84801 |
rbowman wrote on 3/30/2026 : > On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 16:49:06 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> Can but agree. I grew up with the older style desk in all my schools >> and am grateful because I took lots of notes. But curiously in the >> 1940s there were no ballpoint pens or other modern writing tools so the >> groove held a terrible old pen and the round hole, an inkwell. Pencils >> were used to practice writing on lined paper that was rather fllimsy and >> we practiced with pens and used fountain pens at home to write our final >> drafts. > > I can't remember what we used but it wasn't the inkwells. At some point I > had an inexpensive cartridge fountain pen. I cut costs further by using a > syringe to refill the cartridges from my mother's bottle of ink. I vaguely > recall the ones with an internal bladder and a lever on the side. > > My father brought home a BIC that he had found in a shipment from France > where someone had mislaid it. I thought that was pretty neat. It wasn't > too much later they hit the US market. I came to fountain pens long after ball points. Well, I actually began with Schaeffer cartridge pens, and then found a couple lever-bladder pens tucked away in drawers. When I was in college, there was a fad for Rapidiographs. By the time I was in 3rd grade and beginning to use pens, PaperMate click pens were readily available (and still cheap), and there were PaperMate stick pens, but Lindy stick pens were much more common. And messy ... the ball tip tended to leak or break off. /dps -- "Give a lawyer a meal and she eats for minutes; Giver her a client and she bills hourly for years" -- Mei Li, Kevin and Kell July 27, 2018
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