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| Started by | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| First post | 2025-05-21 20:17 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-06-03 18:09 +0200 |
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Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 20:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-21 22:42 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-21 13:47 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 22:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:30 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 04:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 05:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-24 11:44 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 11:26 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-24 12:20 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 22:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:17 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-25 09:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 11:44 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-25 18:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:22 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:37 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:39 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 01:46 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-25 14:42 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:44 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:31 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:52 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:38 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 01:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 18:55 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:21 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:01 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:40 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:07 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:02 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:54 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:55 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:39 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 13:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:00 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:22 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:36 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:21 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 04:47 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:43 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 17:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:08 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:46 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 15:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 11:53 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:40 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:53 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:56 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:15 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:24 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:39 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:02 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 09:26 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 10:44 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 10:01 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 13:46 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 03:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:02 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:54 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-31 01:25 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-30 23:37 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:31 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 09:48 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-01 00:21 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 17:47 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 06:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 00:09 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 13:47 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 02:12 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 22:38 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-04 14:34 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-04 14:53 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:19 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:43 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 12:26 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 21:23 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 15:13 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 15:53 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:59 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 20:24 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 04:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 08:58 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:40 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:30 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:46 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 23:20 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:49 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:27 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 08:58 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:49 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:38 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:41 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:28 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:38 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:18 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-01 06:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:51 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:25 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:45 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:01 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 17:54 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 01:52 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:47 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:53 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:52 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:45 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:36 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:04 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:23 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:09 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:18 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:46 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:36 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-05-29 13:10 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:50 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:50 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 19:18 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 23:40 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:55 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:47 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 05:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 02:04 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:30 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:36 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:06 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:22 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:55 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:45 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 13:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:42 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:08 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:42 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:29 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:04 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 10:59 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 12:43 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 12:07 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 14:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:44 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-01 10:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-01 13:58 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:52 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 22:46 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 05:23 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 07:47 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-02 09:02 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:57 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 15:38 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:59 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:17 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:33 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 09:58 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 18:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:06 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:22 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:40 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:23 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-30 08:41 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 08:32 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:59 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 12:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:44 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:27 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:42 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:39 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:56 +1000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:02 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:13 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:24 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:01 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:26 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 12:35 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:23 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:01 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:19 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:18 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 22:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 17:00 +0200
GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:36 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:32 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:24 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:54 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 08:42 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 17:37 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:15 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:50 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 13:02 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:12 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-04 08:48 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:14 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:45 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:42 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:32 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:37 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:19 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-07 07:05 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:46 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-08 00:25 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-08 08:25 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:25 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:47 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 23:05 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 15:34 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:10 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:44 +0200
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:14 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-10 09:16 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:45 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 15:03 +0000
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:09 -0400
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 10:46 +0100
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:54 -0700
Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:02 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:55 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:53 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:39 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:07 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:23 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:51 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:20 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:19 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:09 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-26 01:10 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:33 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 18:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 18:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:42 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-26 18:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 20:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-27 03:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 02:05 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-27 12:45 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:48 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 05:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:33 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:07 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:37 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:28 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-27 17:08 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 01:28 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:08 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:59 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:37 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 14:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:53 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:20 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:54 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:35 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:38 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:34 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:42 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:03 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:38 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:38 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:57 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:23 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:37 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:33 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:12 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 23:07 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 00:41 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:17 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 22:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:07 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 22:21 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 23:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-31 19:06 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:33 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:03 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 10:08 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:50 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:26 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:45 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:02 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:47 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:08 +0000
OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:40 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:45 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:07 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 12:58 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:02 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:16 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:13 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 18:46 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:41 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 05:04 +0000
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:52 +0100
Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 20:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:23 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:11 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 06:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:02 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:49 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:20 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:56 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:36 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 19:10 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 09:41 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:36 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-08 17:41 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:27 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:26 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:28 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:10 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:01 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:24 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:37 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:26 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-04 06:13 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:50 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 01:06 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:05 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 07:20 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:41 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 08:15 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:17 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 09:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:56 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-03 00:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:44 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:12 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:17 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:06 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:22 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:22 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:48 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:49 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:28 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:22 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:11 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:09 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:30 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:02 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 04:12 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:51 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-03 15:50 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:09 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 21:57 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:16 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:45 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 22:56 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:32 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:25 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:19 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 15:08 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 16:40 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:43 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:39 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:47 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:11 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 21:24 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-03 00:54 -0400
OT: fascism, far-right (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:46 +0100
Re: OT: fascism, far-right Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:20 -0400
Re: OT: fascism, far-right Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-04 13:37 +0000
Re: OT: fascism, far-right The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 15:13 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 00:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-27 15:24 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:08 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-28 14:52 -0700
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:04 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:20 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 23:19 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:36 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:35 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:29 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:16 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:30 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:58 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:32 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-05-21 18:29 -0400
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 23:22 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-05-21 23:51 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 01:05 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:34 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:32 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 00:01 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-22 16:03 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 22:27 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-22 23:26 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-23 06:41 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 08:48 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-05-23 04:03 -0500
Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 09:17 +0100
Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-23 23:42 +0000
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Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:55 +0000
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-05-22 21:04 +0200
Re: Distros specifically designed for children Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-24 13:47 +0000
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-04 13:02 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <101pckc$ojp1$25@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68317 |
On 04/06/2025 11:50, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > I use GIMP a lot. If I need to do something new to me, I just goo-goo > for the answer. > I use it only for things I haven't an alternative to. > Tools with a lot of functionality take some time to learn. Especially if the interfaces are not structured to make simple easy things appear first, and the really weird shit is buried in menus where it wont trap the unwary Or as in the case of GIMP not structured at all. Its not just gimp though. I have been using a 3D CAD program since about 2005. Only last week due to failing eyesight and the need to improve contrast from mid grey on light gray by changing the default graph colours of the background, did I discover a way to do this, buried at the very bottom of a menu that is almost never used. I suppose this is good menu-ing. Since its something you never do on a regular basis, its not there cluttering up the top level menus. That's what I like about this CAD and Corel Draw,. Both expensive commercial programs. Its easy to get started. Drawing basic shapes - or surfaces. You don't need to be a technical draughtsman and type in a zillion co-ordinates just to make a cylinder. People have trued to make the software approachable. Sadly free software doesn't need to be approachable. Gimp and Blender are fantastic tools in the hands of people who know them., I don't think I have sufficient years left to learn either though. Which is sad. -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?"
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-04 23:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <101qjtm$13glj$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68328 |
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:02:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Gimp and Blender are fantastic tools in the hands of people who know > them., I don't think I have sufficient years left to learn either > though. I finally decided to sit down and start learning Blender back in about 2010. I found some nice tutorials on YouTube and elsewhere, and I remember I went through a basic exercise, starting with the default cube, to create a simple drinking glass. Loop cut here, loop cut there, add a subsurf modifier, apply the old Phong shading trick (“shade smooth”), make the material transparent (no concept of refractive index in the old BI renderer), hit the render button ... voilà. This only took maybe a day or two. I was hooked from that point on. Basically, every new thing I learned from that point let me create something even more wonderful than I had before. The point being, it shouldn’t take you years to get to the point of doing something that can impress your friends. The thing with 3D is, it requires a combination of geekiness to understand the technical details, and artistry to make something look good. I can’t claim I’ve got the artistry, but the technical details are fun. I have posted some random doodles here <https://www.deviantart.com/default-cube>.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <slrn1048nub.3kmfh.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #68362 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 23:12 this Wednesday (GMT): > On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:02:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Gimp and Blender are fantastic tools in the hands of people who know >> them., I don't think I have sufficient years left to learn either >> though. > > I finally decided to sit down and start learning Blender back in about > 2010. I found some nice tutorials on YouTube and elsewhere, and I remember > I went through a basic exercise, starting with the default cube, to create > a simple drinking glass. Loop cut here, loop cut there, add a subsurf > modifier, apply the old Phong shading trick (“shade smooth”), make the > material transparent (no concept of refractive index in the old BI > renderer), hit the render button ... voilà. This only took maybe a day or > two. > > I was hooked from that point on. Basically, every new thing I learned from > that point let me create something even more wonderful than I had before. > > The point being, it shouldn’t take you years to get to the point of doing > something that can impress your friends. > > The thing with 3D is, it requires a combination of geekiness to understand > the technical details, and artistry to make something look good. I can’t > claim I’ve got the artistry, but the technical details are fun. > > I have posted some random doodles here ><https://www.deviantart.com/default-cube>. Agreed, 3D can be pretty difficult. I dabbled in it a bit last year, though. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-04 08:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <20250604084826.00004cfd@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68283 |
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:15:36 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > I fired up GIMP 3 and had a quick look round at several dialogs. I > simply could not find any examples of what you’re talking about. I'll be damned - looks like they *finally* started paying attention to this in v.3. Only took 'em 27 years! > It does still take advantage of Fitts’ Law though, doesn’t it. Is > there some other point to context menus? Fitts' Law is exactly what makes such a thing comically redundant: the main menu is *already there,* right within mouse-flick range. Having a duplicate of it pop up when you right-click in the document area would be pointless even if it *weren't* so extensive as to be unwieldy when hanging off the mouse pointer. The true use of context menus is right there in the name: they should provide a contextually-appropriate selection of actions based on the thing clicked on (e.g. vertices of a polygonal-select outline) and/or the current mode (alternate operations for the current tool.) If you're not gonna bother doing that, it'd be more sensible to skip the menu altogether and just use right-click as a fixed alternate function for the current tool or somesuch.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-04 23:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <101qk0o$13glj$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68336 |
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:48:26 -0700, John Ames wrote: > On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 00:15:36 -0000 (UTC) > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> I fired up GIMP 3 and had a quick look round at several dialogs. I >> simply could not find any examples of what you’re talking about. > > I'll be damned - looks like they *finally* started paying attention to > this in v.3. Only took 'em 27 years! *Yawn* Or more likely, you took one look at an early version of GIMP 27 years ago, dismissed it, and have been complaining about it without actually trying it again ever since. > Fitts' Law is exactly what makes such a thing comically redundant: the > main menu is *already there,* right within mouse-flick range. Only if it’s on the edge of the screen. Otherwise it is slow to get to.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-05 08:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <20250605084547.00003f3a@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68363 |
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 23:14:33 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > *Yawn* Or more likely, you took one look at an early version of GIMP > 27 years ago, dismissed it, and have been complaining about it > without actually trying it again ever since. That would be a convenient narrative for you, but no - I first picked it up with v.2 when I was looking for a *nix-native Photoshop alternative, and it was certainly the case then. I've been using it ever since (as the version of Photoshop I had was clunky under WINE,) but I gave up on getting any kind of comparable workflow going for digital art. That became irrelevant as I moved to more traditional media, which worked out for me, but it's illustrative of the GIMP team's overall approach to UI matters: blindly copy what better designers do in a surface approximation, without bothering to understand *why* or study the details to get things really *right.* Same can be seen with single- window mode, which came about as a response to Photoshop for Windows offering a multiple-document interface, but took a less-useful-but- easier-to-implement approach. "Minimum viable product to approximate feature parity" is just how they *do* things...which is why working professionals just trying to Get Shit Done are still willing to put up with Adobe's draconian bullshit.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-05 23:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <101ta0c$1qu8n$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68390 |
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:45:47 -0700, John Ames wrote: > ... but it's illustrative of the GIMP team's overall approach to UI > matters: blindly copy what better designers do in a surface > approximation, without bothering to understand *why* or study the > details to get things really *right.* You’re assuming that the ones who come up with the ideas are actually doing user-interface testing. You really think Adobe, Apple, Microsoft and others are doing that nowadays? When you’re saying “get things right” you just mean “get things the way I’m used to with Adobe products”. Or maybe it’s “Microsoft” or “Apple” products in some other case. > Same can be seen with single-window mode, which came about as a response > to Photoshop for Windows offering a multiple-document interface, but > took a less-useful-but-easier-to-implement approach. Not sure what you’re complaining about there. GIMP still offers the choice of multi-window mode, if that’s what you prefer. > ...which is why working professionals just trying to Get Shit Done > are still willing to put up with Adobe's draconian bullshit. I just think sometimes those “working professionals” are too lazy or unimaginative to realize that a computer is a universal machine, that you can program to do all the boring, repetitive tasks for you, so you don’t have to do them.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 08:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <20250606083202.0000328e@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68401 |
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 23:42:04 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > When you’re saying “get things right” you just mean “get things the > way I’m used to with Adobe products”. Or maybe it’s “Microsoft” or > “Apple” products in some other case. Again, they could certainly pick a *different* set of accelerators than Photoshop (and, while I didn't bother to compare, I imagine they did.) But until this revamp (which, I will reiterate, took them *almost three decades* to figure out,) they exhibited a fundamentally bone-headed mis- understanding of how keyboard accelerators are supposed to work in the first place. That's *not* a mistake Adobe made (or if they did, it'd been fixed by v.7, which was - *checks watch* - twenty-five years ago.) > Not sure what you’re complaining about there. GIMP still offers the > choice of multi-window mode, if that’s what you prefer. I don't prefer, actually! My beef with single-window mode is not that multi-window mode is better (maybe you like it better, maybe you don't, that's fine and it's good that they provide the option to switch) - it's that single-window mode is a *less useful* response to Photoshop's MDI interface. There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a real need: "But then in every discussion the concrete need for working side-by-side comes up. [...] Let’s not kid ourselves: the fact that users can work on several files inside a single application window, means that this application must offer a substitute for window management..." - https://gui.gimp.org/index.php?title=Single-window_mode_specification
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 08:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <20250606083757.00002dc6@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68434 |
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: > made (or if they did, it'd been fixed by v.7, which was - *checks > watch* - twenty-five years ago.) *checks watch* *winds watch* Twenty-*three* years ago.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 02:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <10207jt$2k6uo$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68434 |
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: > There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in > SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a > real need ... So do it in multi-window mode. Remember that Microsoft’s whole MDI/SDI rigmarole is a consequence of the brain-dead architecture of the Windows GUI in the first place. There is no reason for an application that runs on *nix systems to be restricted to the same limitations.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 07:05 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <10216ec$2vvi1$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68473 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: > >> There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in >> SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a >> real need ... > > So do it in multi-window mode. Cool! I hadn't realized that existed in GIMP. > Remember that Microsoft’s whole MDI/SDI rigmarole is a consequence of the > brain-dead architecture of the Windows GUI in the first place. There is no > reason for an application that runs on *nix systems to be restricted to > the same limitations. -- "Most people would like to be delivered from temptation but would like it to keep in touch." -- Robert Orben
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-08 03:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <102312q$3k3he$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68497 |
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: >> >>> There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in >>> SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a >>> real need ... >> >> So do it in multi-window mode. > > Cool! I hadn't realized that existed in GIMP. As far as I know, multi-window mode has been present in GIMP since GIMP began. The "everything packed into a single window" mode is a newer add-on (and one that I have never enabled myself).
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-06-08 00:25 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <uJKdnYSqCq97jdj1nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #68525 |
On 6/7/25 11:46 PM, Rich wrote: > Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >> >>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: >>> >>>> There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in >>>> SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a >>>> real need ... >>> >>> So do it in multi-window mode. >> >> Cool! I hadn't realized that existed in GIMP. > > As far as I know, multi-window mode has been present in GIMP since GIMP > began. The "everything packed into a single window" mode is a newer > add-on (and one that I have never enabled myself). Multi-Window is USUALLY more useful - lets you tweak and re-tweak and FINALLY merge. However for some needs, single-window is just easier and more intuitive. In any case, I remind, GIMP is *freeware* - the Great Mission. So DON'T bitch a lot.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-06-08 08:25 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <1023vgb$3r3op$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68525 |
Rich wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >> >>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: >>> >>>> There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in >>>> SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a >>>> real need ... >>> >>> So do it in multi-window mode. >> >> Cool! I hadn't realized that existed in GIMP. > > As far as I know, multi-window mode has been present in GIMP since GIMP > began. The "everything packed into a single window" mode is a newer > add-on (and one that I have never enabled myself). Since years, using GIMP, I was always presented with a single window. Oh well. -- Never have so many understood so little about so much. -- James Burke
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-08 18:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <mam2rvFrj32U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68541 |
On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 08:25:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Since years, using GIMP, I was always presented with a single window. It didn't calve off floating windows when you used it?
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-06-09 08:47 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <1026l4r$hj96$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68548 |
rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 08:25:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> Since years, using GIMP, I was always presented with a single window. > > It didn't calve off floating windows when you used it? No. To be fair, it might have been my always-reused GIMP configuration. So many years ago I don't remember the original settings. -- A long-forgotten loved one will appear soon. Buy the negatives at any price.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-08 23:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces |
| Message-ID | <10254v9$38nl$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68541 |
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > Rich wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>> >>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 08:32:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is, AFAICT, still no way to view documents side-by- side in >>>>> SWM, despite GIMP's own internal dev wiki admitting that this is a >>>>> real need ... >>>> >>>> So do it in multi-window mode. >>> >>> Cool! I hadn't realized that existed in GIMP. >> >> As far as I know, multi-window mode has been present in GIMP since GIMP >> began. The "everything packed into a single window" mode is a newer >> add-on (and one that I have never enabled myself). > > Since years, using GIMP, I was always presented with a single window. > > Oh well. Perhaps the packagers of GIMP for your distro decided to default their package to be GIMP single window mode?
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-09 15:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <20250609153429.00001271@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68473 |
On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 02:19:41 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > So do it in multi-window mode. > > Remember that Microsoft’s whole MDI/SDI rigmarole is a consequence of > the brain-dead architecture of the Windows GUI in the first place. > There is no reason for an application that runs on *nix systems to be > restricted to the same limitations. MDI is one of several solutions to an inherently clunky and complicated UX problem: how do you manage a single application with arbitrarily many documents, in a desktop environment with a bunch of other stuff open as well? The perfect solution would have the following properties: A. not clutter up the window list in the desktop environment, B. allow easy switching between documents in the application, C. allow easy switching to/from other applications, D. allow free arrangement of documents on the screen (side-by-side,) E. make efficient and orderly use of screen real estate. If there's a perfect solution out there, I've certainly never seen it - but let's compare the articles at hand. GIMP in multi-window mode allows easy switching and side-by-side work between documents, but clutters up the window list with one window per document (or more, if your WM doesn't take the hint to leave the "dock" windows out of the list,) which makes it a chore to go back and forth between another application and 2+ GIMP documents. Photoshop in MDI mode allows easy switching and side-by-side work between documents, and doesn't clutter up the window list, which makes switching between applications easy - but it does limit the placement of documents to the main-window area, meaning there's little point to running it non-maximized. GIMP in single-window mode allows easy switching between documents and doesn't clutter up the window list, but it has no provision at all for side-by-side work (despite, I will reiterate, GIMP's *own dev team* admitting that this is a real need) - and your "just switch modes" argument means forgoing what advantages it *does* have over multi- window mode. So: whether or not you personally consider MDI clunky or braindead, it *does* have concrete advantages over both GIMP modes - and, again, the GIMP team knows this, but they have not addressed it, because they don't really understand or care about UX matters.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-10 01:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <10280ln$rmtv$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68602 |
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:34:29 -0700, John Ames wrote: > MDI is one of several solutions to an inherently clunky and complicated > UX problem: how do you manage a single application with arbitrarily many > documents, in a desktop environment with a bunch of other stuff open as > well? We already have plenty of solutions to that. Look at the dual concepts of “virtual desktops” and “activities” in KDE Plasma 6.x, for example. That allows you to switch between entire suites of document/application windows in a single operation. MDI is inherently clunky because Microsoft chose to impose the stupid UI convention that there must be a top-level “application window” to contain all the application-specific “document windows”. No other GUI is built that way.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-06-10 07:44 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) |
| Message-ID | <1028gnd$n6uc$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #68612 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:34:29 -0700, John Ames wrote: > >> MDI is one of several solutions to an inherently clunky and complicated >> UX problem: how do you manage a single application with arbitrarily many >> documents, in a desktop environment with a bunch of other stuff open as >> well? > >We already have plenty of solutions to that. Look at the dual concepts of >“virtual desktops” and “activities” in KDE Plasma 6.x, for example. That >allows you to switch between entire suites of document/application windows >in a single operation. That is something I have never understood, and have failed to find example use cases: All documentation I found handles this feature in half a paragraph, leaving it to the user to grasp the possible power of the two-dimensional concept. >MDI is inherently clunky because Microsoft chose to impose the stupid UI >convention that there must be a top-level “application window” to contain >all the application-specific “document windows”. No other GUI is built >that way. They did that 30 years ago and did pioneering work in this regard, just to reduce the blame we put on them today. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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