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Re: Marxist Healthcare

From Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Marxist Healthcare
Date 2025-12-23 22:41 +0000
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
> On 23/12/2025 19:38, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>      I wish I could say that i am doing better but it seems that the
>> whole day of surgery and repair has exhaberated my Chronic Exhaustion
>> and I am so, so worn out by the activities of daily living that it is a
>> relief to sit down and type for a bit.
>>      Usually when I have over-exerted myself I get sick with influenza
>> like symptoms but I am just so tired that it is hard to believe.
>> 
> BTDTGTTS...
>
> My last operation fucked me up for over a year with similar symptoms.
>
>>      If you every have a 'flu like illness and find that your get tired on
>> resuming your normal activities for the sake of your health get more
>> rest and be very careful of exertion.  This may or may not prevent the
>> post virual fatigue syndrome but I had never heard of such a problem
>> in my years of nursing.  So I went out and started to exercise again and
>> soon I was reduced to very little activity. That was when I was 46 yoa
>> and I am now 88 yoa and can barely take care of myself.
>>      bliss
>
> You may have some undiagnosed viral illness or even a depressed immune
> system due to some cancer or other.

I think the long-term impacts of viral infections are becoming clearer
and clearer. Post-polio syndrome has been reported since at least the
1980s. Long COVID is well known.  Epstein-Barr virus has been
statistically connected to MS (although I don’t think anyone’s figured
out what the mechanism is yet) and more recently Lupus.

Personally I’ve got lucky so far.  But I know four people with MS and
one of my coworkers spent years struggling with long COVID, with
Bobbie’s description above matching their experience. (Another coworker
went long-term sick around the same time but I don’t have the inside
track on what’s up with them.)

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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