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Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?)

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?)
Date 2025-12-22 19:16 +0000
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On 22/12/2025 16:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/22/25 07:57, Bob Tennent wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 01:54:45 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>   > On 12/21/25 21:17, Bob Tennent wrote:
>>   >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:11:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>   >>   > On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:47:21 +0000, The Natural Philosopher 
>> wrote:
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   >> That alone makes it way better than privately insured and 
>> delivered.
>>   >>   >> health services.
>>   >>   >
>>   >>   > But ... but ... how can *anything* Government-run *possibly* 
>> be better
>>   >>   > than a private for-profit service?!!?? Doesn’t that go against
>>   >>   > everything that America Stands For??!??
>>   >>
>>   >> Health care in Canada isn't "government-run". It's run
>>   >> by doctors and hospitals. Government *pays* doctors and
>>   >> hospitals but doesn't "run" them.
>>   >
>>   >    Still doesn't do much good though ... subsidizing
>>   >    incompetence doesn't IMPROVE things.
>>
>> American health costs are higher than anywhere in the world
>> because of insurance administration. Yet outcomes are worse.
>> Doesn't sound like incompetence to me.
> 
>      Sounds like in the USA we need to socialize, not medicine and patient
> care, but insurance and take the profit to the insurers out of it.
> 
That is a model many countries use. It's not perfect either.


>      But then in the US Military Services health care is free to service 
> members
> and their families.  It is paid for out of the budget of the Defense 
> Department.
> If that is not the situation we want to enjoy then we should keep things 
> as they
> are.  If it sounds desirable maybe everyone should enlist or just vote 
> to pay
> some more taxes if we are working to pay for healthcare for everyone.
> 
>      Oh and we have a movement called Medicare for All that you might
> want to learn more about.  I have Medicare and at 88 have to report
> that in 2025 it has repaired my ankle and kept me in rehab facility for
> about 2.5 months.  I got out of the hospital on April 11tg.  Then I noted
> a bump on my nose that would not heal and it was basal cell carcinoma
> and I had to go to a Dermatological Surgeon and she worked very hard
> to make sure that all the cancer was gone.  Right now I have a bunch
> of stitches in my face and on my nose where a skin graft from my face
> was done.  Not one bit of fun in a long long day of cut, check the slice
> for cancer and then slice again, then stitch up the whole mess, with
> tons of local anesthetic injections.  All on Medicare which is socialized
> insurance for old folks like myself.
> 
>      bliss
> 

-- 
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have 
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

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  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-18 20:45 -0500
    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 10:54 +0000
      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-19 09:11 -0500
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:02 +0000
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          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-20 20:45 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Sump <sumpusent@outlook.com> - 2025-12-21 02:10 +0000
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          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 14:47 +0000
            Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-21 02:11 +0000
              Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:34 +0000
              Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> - 2025-12-22 02:17 +0000
                Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-22 04:43 +0000
                Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> - 2025-12-22 15:53 +0000
                Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 01:54 -0500
                Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> - 2025-12-22 15:57 +0000
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                Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-22 19:16 +0000
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