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Re: Marxist Healthcare

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Marxist Healthcare
Date 2025-12-24 12:23 +0000
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On 23/12/2025 22:41, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> On 23/12/2025 19:38, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>       I wish I could say that i am doing better but it seems that the
>>> whole day of surgery and repair has exhaberated my Chronic Exhaustion
>>> and I am so, so worn out by the activities of daily living that it is a
>>> relief to sit down and type for a bit.
>>>       Usually when I have over-exerted myself I get sick with influenza
>>> like symptoms but I am just so tired that it is hard to believe.
>>>
>> BTDTGTTS...
>>
>> My last operation fucked me up for over a year with similar symptoms.
>>
>>>       If you every have a 'flu like illness and find that your get tired on
>>> resuming your normal activities for the sake of your health get more
>>> rest and be very careful of exertion.  This may or may not prevent the
>>> post virual fatigue syndrome but I had never heard of such a problem
>>> in my years of nursing.  So I went out and started to exercise again and
>>> soon I was reduced to very little activity. That was when I was 46 yoa
>>> and I am now 88 yoa and can barely take care of myself.
>>>       bliss
>>
>> You may have some undiagnosed viral illness or even a depressed immune
>> system due to some cancer or other.
> 
> I think the long-term impacts of viral infections are becoming clearer
> and clearer. Post-polio syndrome has been reported since at least the
> 1980s. Long COVID is well known.  Epstein-Barr virus has been
> statistically connected to MS (although I don’t think anyone’s figured
> out what the mechanism is yet) and more recently Lupus.
> 
> Personally I’ve got lucky so far.  But I know four people with MS and
> one of my coworkers spent years struggling with long COVID, with
> Bobbie’s description above matching their experience. (Another coworker
> went long-term sick around the same time but I don’t have the inside
> track on what’s up with them.)
> 
I had a friend who had all those symptoms for years.

Eventually he died of undiagnosed cancer. There were literally no signs 
apart from fatigue, at all, until his back exploded in pain and they 
found bowel cancer cells everywhere inside his body - except his bowels. 
Don't ask me how that one works.

The problem seems to be that fatigue is the body's way of saying its not 
well, and that is it. It might be a rotten tooth, it might be a virus, 
it might be cancer,  or (just a) compromised immune system, Or you might 
just be tired of life...


-- 
"It was a lot more fun being 20 in the 70's that it is being 70 in the 20's"
Joew Walsh

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