Re: The joy of Democracy

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The joy of Democracy
Date	2024-10-20 10:33 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
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On 20/10/2024 04:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2024-10-19, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 17:26:15 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-10-19, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ancient Greeks had the only solution: checks and balances. Because
>>>> “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”.
>>>
>>> In one of his thought-provoking editorials, John W. Campbell, editor of
>>> Analog Science Fiction (formerly Astounding), corrected that saying.
>>> He pointed out that it's not so much power that corrupts, but immunity.
>>> After all, you're less likely to abuse power if you know you might be
>>> called to account for it.
>>
>> That’s what “checks and balances” are all about.
> 
> Which is why the dangerous politicians try to dismantle or circumvent them.
> 

If you study the history of modern democracy, you find that regime 
change was traditionally accomplished by a civil war, a palace coup, or 
unfortunate accidents to the reigning monarch.

This, in Britain culminated in the beheading of Charles I, but what 
followed - a sort of puritan theocracy/communism - was so distasteful 
that the rich chaps got together and asked Charles II to come back and 
take over.

Then to stop it happening again, parliament was given more powers and 
the price of its support was that the King had to toe the line, and 
regime change happened via elections instead.

France failed to learn the lesson, and its revolutionary change led 
eventually to YAEDEWIA  - Yet Another European Dictator-Emperor With 
Attitude.
And sadly that has been the pattern in Europe, No more kings and queens, 
just nasty little men in suits doing shabby little deals more or less 
without the public's consent.
Franco, Mussolini, Hitler, Caecescu, Putin.

Europe isn't happy with democracy. It is in love with communism really - 
the EU was designed by a communist Italian whilst in jail - and it has 
been thoroughly infiltrated by communists ever since.

And is busy removing all the checks and balances.

Did you know that no member of the EU bureaucracy can either be sacked 
lose their pension or be prosecuted?

They are literally above the law.

-- 
“Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,”

  – Ludwig von Mises

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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-17 18:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-17 22:02 +0000
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                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-20 10:33 +0100
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                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-21 11:58 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 18:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-19 21:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-20 01:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 05:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-19 10:26 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-19 18:53 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-19 17:08 +0000
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                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-19 21:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-20 01:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-20 10:21 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-20 16:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-19 19:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-18 18:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 21:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-19 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 11:18 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 21:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-17 13:09 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-17 22:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-17 22:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-17 23:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-17 23:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-18 01:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 03:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-18 04:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 05:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 03:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-19 05:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-19 11:14 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 19:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-19 22:11 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-20 11:31 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 01:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-18 07:48 -1000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 21:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 03:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-18 17:49 -1000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-20 14:19 -1000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 11:27 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 03:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 02:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-18 00:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-20 22:03 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 01:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 00:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-21 03:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-17 23:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-18 10:13 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 03:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 11:26 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-17 11:03 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-17 19:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 11:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 02:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-21 16:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-21 17:53 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 20:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 23:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 01:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 06:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-22 09:27 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-22 09:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 17:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-22 18:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-22 20:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-22 11:14 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-23 01:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2024-10-23 13:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-23 19:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> - 2024-10-23 15:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-23 20:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:30 -0400
                Re: The joy of Democracy Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2024-10-22 20:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of Science Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 20:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-16 19:58 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-16 13:40 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-10-17 10:17 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-17 09:02 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-17 20:30 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-17 22:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-17 23:50 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 04:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-18 02:15 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-18 11:25 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 21:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-18 04:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 05:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-18 02:25 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-18 18:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Typography Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-18 21:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of Typography 186282ud0s3 <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-18 19:59 -0400
                Re: The joy of Typography Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-19 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Typography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-19 19:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of Typography Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-19 21:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Typography John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 08:15 -0700
                Re: The joy of Typography Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-10-19 20:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of Typography Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-19 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Typography Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-19 21:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-20 12:04 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-19 03:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-19 05:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-15 22:13 +0200
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-14 08:19 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-12 02:07 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 02:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-12 17:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 21:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-13 00:23 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Schlomo Goldberg <schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com> - 2024-10-12 02:35 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 07:44 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-11 19:05 -0400
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-10-10 18:10 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-11 10:59 -0400
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-11 18:33 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-11 19:04 -0400

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