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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Soldered connections. |
| Date | 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vbdgolxpuo.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (22 earlier) <f5icnUXbt_1ufTL1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <f6r5olx0lg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <6P6cndY_yqfjxS31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <ca7golx666.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1093t2g$3ophr$6@dont-email.me> |
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On 2025-09-01 12:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 01/09/2025 10:58, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> The EU restricts soldered connections in permanent wiring **because >> they are not mechanically reliable on their own**. Safe connections >> must be both **electrically sound** and **mechanically strong**, which >> solder alone doesn’t guarantee. >> >> Let me know if you'd like references from the standards or help with >> specific national codes like the UK’s BS 7671 (IET Wiring Regulations). > > Yes. Rules are made for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise > men... > Soldering works, Arguably a solder joint that melts before the wires do > is no worse than the wire itself fusing. Just it may happen at a lower > current. > > The real issue is of course the mechanical support of a soldered > connection., It stiffens stranded wire and makes it easy to fatigue it > under flexing. > > BUT, consider a fully supported solder joint, inside heat shrink...it > doesn't matter if the solder melts. It's still conductive isn't it? It > can't fall apart... > > The real problem is the badly made solder joint by an amateur, and > believe me the average electrician sits only two steps above Neanderthal.* > > > *labourers and navvies who can just about dig trenches *are* > Neanderthals, A bricklayer who can lay a straight course of bricks is a > step above. As are plumbers and plasterers. > Carpenters who can do framing are two steps above along with electricians. > But they are all sub human. I do know how to solder. :-) However, if I try to certify the electrical installation, I would have to redo them, meaning rewire the second floor (first floor in EU) entirely. And unless I certify, the electricity company refuses to increase the Amps, which is why my house is limited to 10A. Instead, I'll move house. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:29 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:24 -0400
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Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:27 +0200
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Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:06 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:01 +0100
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Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:51 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:08 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:13 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:04 +0100
Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:58 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:30 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:18 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:43 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:34 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:43 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:13 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:36 +0200
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Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:03 -0400
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Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 21:49 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:32 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:15 +0100
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Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:59 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:52 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:45 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:17 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 12:31 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:46 +0200
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Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 11:50 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:27 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:27 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:28 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
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Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:51 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:01 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:30 -0400
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Re: Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:12 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:57 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:14 +0100
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Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:10 +1000
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Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:39 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:07 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:31 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:07 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:54 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:47 +0000
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Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:28 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:26 +0200
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Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
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