Re: Soldered connections.

From	Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Soldered connections.
Date	2025-09-02 11:50 -0700
Organization	dis
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On 9/2/25 11:03, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-09-02 18:39, Don_from_AZ wrote:
>> Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> When I walk in from the Street Footpath through the Front Door of a
>>>> House, I'm still (possibly) AT GROUND LEVEL, so I MUST be on THE
>>>> *GROUND* *FLOOR* level, surely!!
>>>> If I then go up a set of stairs, that puts me at the *FIRST* *FLOOR*
>>>> *ABOVE* Ground level, surely!!
>>>
>>> This is indeed the English convention.  I suspect the same is true in
>>> France: "premier etage".  So probably Europe-wide.
>>>
>>> The Americans can achieve the same result by numbering their ground
>>> floor as zero.
>> But, but... when I walk in to a building at the ground level, the floor
>> I encounter there is surely the "first" floor you get to. So the one
>> above that must be the "second" floor, and so forth. Seems clear to me!
> 
> It is equally clear to me that it is the zero floor, as I did not have 
> to climb the stairs or the elevator :-)

Street floor.  And you leave out the sub-floors of which their may be 
several
in large buildings. Generally if there are offices or shops it may be 
the first floor
but even if not you will take stairs or elevators to the 2nd floor and 
higher.
I used to in my youth run up and down 4 flights of stairs to avoid 
waiting for
the elevator. No direct accsss to the sub-floors which had some parking
space for people who came by auto.  Just to add to the confusion but...

	bliss

	bliss

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