Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature

From	Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com>
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Subject	Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature
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Date	2024-07-06 18:18 -0400

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Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> writes:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>On Mon, 6 May 2024 11:41:38 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> For specific tasks by users on a multiuser machine sudo is well
>>> controlled For doing engine out maintenance by skilled personnel, its a
>>> sodding encumbrance.
>>
>>Pro tip: one of the commands you can feed to sudo is “/bin/bash”.
>
> I am wondering why people are so darn creative to work around a simple
> sudo -i.

I've had to work with accounts where the sysadmin used /sbin/nologin or
false for the shell. Then they allowed all commands with sudo. Using
sudo and calling /bin/bash allowed the account to be used interactively
when there was need to do that.

I judged it not worth the time to try to get the shell set to something
usable. I'd have had to explain the problem to the admin, who would have
had to run the request up the food chain, etc.

They already put in place a policy with sudo that allows us to fire up
the shell we want. Done. No need for further discussion.

It's like when you see that you've been setup to "sudo su -
someusername" You just shrug your shoulders and move on.

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Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-05 23:17 +0000
  Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-06 08:24 +0100
    Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-06 10:00 +0200
    Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-06 08:11 +0000
      Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 10:50 +0200
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-06 11:42 +0100
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 15:09 +0200
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-06 19:29 +0200
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-06 13:56 -0500
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-06 20:35 +0100
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-06 21:56 +0000
      Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-06 11:39 +0100
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2024-05-06 14:00 +0042
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature John McCue <jmccue@magnetar.jmcunx.com> - 2024-05-06 17:15 +0000
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-05-06 23:18 +0000
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-07 09:34 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-07 08:50 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2024-05-07 15:32 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-05-07 20:25 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-08 10:53 +0100
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-05-06 17:29 +0000
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-06 21:58 +0000
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-07 08:28 +0100
    Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-06 09:32 +0100
      Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-06 11:41 +0100
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-06 13:55 -0500
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-06 20:08 +0100
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-06 19:11 -0500
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-07 16:29 +0100
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-07 14:19 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-07 23:01 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-07 23:00 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-08 10:58 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-08 18:48 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-08 19:59 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-08 23:20 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-05-08 23:01 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:49 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-09 13:01 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 22:49 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-10 17:16 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:24 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-11 09:00 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-11 08:47 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-11 10:14 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-11 21:14 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 00:16 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 01:53 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 02:37 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 12:51 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:48 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-13 11:42 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 22:45 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-14 21:22 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-27 08:16 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-27 16:13 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-28 13:11 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-28 12:18 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-28 15:27 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-05-28 18:11 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-28 23:06 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 19:21 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:48 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-13 11:43 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-13 12:20 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 22:45 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-14 21:21 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-17 07:49 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-18 00:33 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-13 12:10 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 12:44 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 19:33 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 21:42 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-13 11:41 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-14 20:49 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-11 11:31 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-11 12:04 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-11 21:17 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 01:51 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 12:42 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 19:29 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 00:45 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 12:36 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 15:21 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 21:39 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:49 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-13 11:43 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-14 00:40 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-14 21:22 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-17 07:47 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-18 00:33 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-27 06:50 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-12 19:22 +0100
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-12 21:40 +0200
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-06 22:00 +0000
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-07 08:59 +0200
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-07 14:20 -0500
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-08 11:52 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-08 10:51 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:32 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-08 22:07 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-08 20:32 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-09 11:06 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-08 20:31 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-09 11:08 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-05-09 17:20 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-09 17:59 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-05-14 03:42 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-08 22:51 +0200
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-06 18:18 -0400
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-07 07:19 +0000
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-05-07 16:00 +0000
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-07 14:21 -0500
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-08 11:53 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:47 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-09 11:29 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 22:51 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-10 11:38 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:25 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-11 11:30 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-06 18:25 -0400
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-10 07:10 +0000
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-10 07:24 -0400
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-08 20:38 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-09 11:33 +0200
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-05-08 15:20 +0000
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-07 22:06 +0000
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-05-08 15:20 +0000
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-05-07 14:20 -0700
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-08 08:27 +0200
            Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-08 20:44 -0500
              Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:07 +0200
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-09 18:36 -0500
                Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 09:11 +0200
      Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-06 13:53 -0500
        Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-06 20:00 +0100
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2024-05-06 19:13 -0500
          Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-07 09:26 +0200
      Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-05-06 19:43 +0000
      Re: Yet Another New systemd Feature Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2024-05-07 13:35 +0800

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