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Re: It must be a troll

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Subject Re: It must be a troll
Date Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:40:03 -0000 (UTC)
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Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 19:54 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> 
>>> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
>>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
>>> I have been root and never ever had a problem.
>> 
>> Of course.  Running as root is the only sensible option.
>> 
>> These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
>> in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
>> running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
>> answer.
>> 
>> That's because they are technically stupid.  They understand
>> nothing.  All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
>> line.
>> 
>> Heck.  I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
>> as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
>> machines.
>> 
>> As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
>> those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
>> about.  Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
>> are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
>> totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.
>> 
>> Other examples abound.
>> 
>> In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
>> these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
>> belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.
>
>
> You're a fucking idiot, dude.  I don't even know a lot about Linux's 
> internals or anything, but I know that operating an Internet-connected 
> box as root is stupid, 99.999% of the time it'll be fine, you're right, 
> but do you want to take that chance?  To save typing "sudo" or whatever? 
>   Just moronic.


There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root
account.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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