Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: candycanearter07 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: It must be a troll Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:40:03 -0000 (UTC) Organization: the-candyden-of-code Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: <106v18s$38d7c$1@dont-email.me> <1071mfd$3s0qm$1@dont-email.me> <0w7lQ.24790$mS6.18329@fx34.iad> Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="329ef539218f0ecc028e16e9ca3e21cb"; logging-data="2977663"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19NdeQNPxNsb2zaMf6zpTcnx13xy9S/NDzY/NOkxKpCOg==" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aZd3uWGq+xlvVUpy067wrPhA970= X-Face: b{dPmN&%4|lEo,wUO\"KLEOu5N_br(N2Yuc5/qcR5i>9-!^e\.Tw9?/m0}/~:UOM:Zf]% b+ V4R8q|QiU/R8\|G\WpC`-s?=)\fbtNc&=/a3a)r7xbRI]Vl)r<%PTriJ3pGpl_/B6!8pe\btzx `~R! r3.0#lHRE+^Gro0[cjsban'vZ#j7,?I/tHk{s=TFJ:H?~=]`O*~3ZX`qik`b:.gVIc-[$t/e ZrQsWJ >|l^I_[pbsIqwoz.WGA] wrote at 19:54 this Thursday (GMT): > On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote: >> On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> >>> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992 >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System >>> I have been root and never ever had a problem. >> >> Of course. Running as root is the only sensible option. >> >> These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain, >> in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation >> running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever >> answer. >> >> That's because they are technically stupid. They understand >> nothing. All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard >> line. >> >> Heck. I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure >> as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux >> machines. >> >> As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and >> those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking >> about. Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations >> are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is >> totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated. >> >> Other examples abound. >> >> In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate >> these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that >> belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo. > > > You're a fucking idiot, dude. I don't even know a lot about Linux's > internals or anything, but I know that operating an Internet-connected > box as root is stupid, 99.999% of the time it'll be fine, you're right, > but do you want to take that chance? To save typing "sudo" or whatever? > Just moronic. There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root account. -- user is generated from /dev/urandom