Re: More systemdCrap

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: More systemdCrap
Date	2025-03-10 23:14 +0100
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On 2025-03-10 21:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 10/03/2025 18:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-03-10 19:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 10/03/2025 18:12, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an errant service spewing out pages of errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears that journalctl is not able to clear a single service from
>>>>> its log files.
>>>>> Anyone know different?
>>>>
>>>> https://serverfault.com/questions/1053748/how-can-i-ask-journalctl- 
>>>> to- show-records-for-all-units-except-one
>>>>
>>> What has that got to do with the question?
>>
>> Systemd by intentional design can not clear anything from its log 
>> files. You should know this.
>>
> Of course it can.
> 
> The problem is it doesn't do it selectively by service,  only globally 
> by time or by size.
> IN short journalctl is fundamentally broken.

No, it can not do. The journal contains everything, nothing can be 
removed. This is intentional by design. At display time, you can choose 
what to show, which is different.

Obviously it can delete old entries, that's different. Either by date, 
or by choosing what total size to keep.

Nothing is broken, it has been intentionally designed this way, looking 
at integrity of the recorded data, which can be, I heard, 
cryptographically signed.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 16:29 +0000
  Re: More systemdCrap Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 14:12 -0400
    Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 18:40 +0000
      Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-10 19:45 +0100
        Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 20:50 +0000
          Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:14 +0100
            Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 15:28 -0700
              Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 07:58 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:17 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 14:50 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 15:59 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 15:29 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 08:41 -0700
                Re: More systemdCrap D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-11 22:36 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:47 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:46 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:44 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 09:07 -0700
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-12 21:38 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 07:59 -0700
                Re: More systemdCrap John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> - 2025-03-11 17:37 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:42 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 22:10 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-12 21:38 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 23:42 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 00:12 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-13 08:21 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 08:06 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-03-11 08:33 -0400
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 14:52 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-11 15:50 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 08:59 -0700
                Re: More systemdCrap Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-11 16:12 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 09:19 -0700
                Re: More systemdCrap Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-11 16:25 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:02 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-11 22:38 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 22:14 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 22:12 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 14:50 -0700
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 23:44 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 19:58 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-11 22:37 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:07 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-11 11:32 -0400
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:07 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-12 22:26 +0100
            Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 07:45 +0000
              Re: More systemdCrap John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> - 2025-03-11 11:28 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-11 11:42 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:21 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 23:04 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-14 20:22 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-15 22:39 -0400
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 14:45 +0000
      Re: More systemdCrap Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 16:33 -0400
      Re: More systemdCrap Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 16:37 -0400
        Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 20:53 +0000
          Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:17 +0100
            Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:33 +0000
              Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:23 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 14:51 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:56 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 21:05 +0000
            Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 07:49 +0000
              Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:27 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 14:51 +0000
              Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:56 +0000
          Re: More systemdCrap Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 10:21 -0400
            Re: More systemdCrap Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-03-11 09:47 -0500
              Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 14:53 +0000
  Re: More systemdCrap Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-13 07:47 +0000
    Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-13 09:37 +0100
      Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 22:07 +0000
        Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-14 12:57 +0100
          Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-14 21:30 +0000
            Re: More systemdCrap vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 03:19 +0000
            Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-16 14:48 +0100
              Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 00:40 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 20:03 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-18 21:20 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 22:51 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-18 22:06 +0000
                Re: More systemdCrap "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 01:29 +0100
                Re: More systemdCrap The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-19 06:31 +0000

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