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Re: How long should a dd take

From Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: How long should a dd take
Date 2020-03-27 21:35 -0400
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On 3/27/20 5:12 PM, Rich wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On 3/27/20 4:13 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>>> With the default setting for bs, a very long time.  dd's defaults 
>>> are mostly wrong much of the time.
>>
>> It looks that the defaults were chosen at the time of DEC PDP-11 
>> machines whose disk drives were demarcated into blocks (512 bytes) 
>> tracks (10 or 19) and cylinders.
> 
> What block sizes did tape drives of the DEC PDP-11 era (predates my 
> time) support?  Was 512 bytes possibly also chosen as the default 
> because early tape hardware required 512 byte blocks?
> 

I am not sure. DECTape drives could modify individual records on the
tape; I.e., tape blocks were addressable. I never met any other tape
drive that could do that. I think they picked 512byte block size there
too to be compatible with their disk drives. I never used a DECTape, so
I may be mistaken about this.

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                Re: How long should a dd take Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-03-27 21:12 +0000
                Re: How long should a dd take Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2020-03-27 20:35 -0500
                Re: How long should a dd take Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-03-27 21:35 -0400
                Re: How long should a dd take Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2020-03-27 20:35 -0500
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  Re: How long should a dd take Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2020-03-24 08:21 -0500
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    Re: How long should a dd take "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-24 21:46 +0100
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        Re: How long should a dd take "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-03-25 01:20 +0100
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