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| Subject | Re: M$ 365 Down, Again |
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| References | (15 earlier) <iCmdnVNZXNxYGzz6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <12f8009a-b8a0-9f85-ba66-508512e93ab4@example.net> <67a28066@news.ausics.net> <nzydnZ7AocjLmz76nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <5hqb7lxb81.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| From | "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> |
| Organization | WokieSux |
| Date | 2025-02-05 22:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nyGdnXS9DLnTtzn6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> (permalink) |
On 2/5/25 5:18 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-02-05 07:33, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> On 2/4/25 4:02 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>>> Zeps are technically "better", but the framework >>>>> is subject to stress and can snap - even if it >>>>> was upgraded to titanium. Blimps spread the load >>>>> across the entire envelope and can thus survive >>>>> sudden wind gusts better. They may kinda fold >>>>> and shimmy, but don't snap. >>>>> >>>>> Hmmmm ... maybe a 'hybrid' is possible now - >>>>> a blimp, but 'stiffened' a bit with like >>>>> graphite ribs so it's not SO floppy ? >>>> >>>> I heard about an experimental concept that does not use a gas for lift, >>>> but vacuum! Very fascinating! >>> >>> More theoretical than experimental - the materials might be >>> possible but I don't think anyone can make them yet. >> >> Um, no, CAN'T be made. Ever SEEN any kind of vac >> vessel even slightly compromised ? INSTANT total >> CRUSH. Maybe an unobtanium sphere ..... > > Ever seen electrical bulbs? Some are vacuum filled. > There were also electronic valves, CRT tubes... Well, as an experiment, WEIGH the glass envelope on those vac tubes ... then extrapolate that for a 200-foot flying vessel. Oh, both valves and old light-bulbs BREAK very easily. Modern incandescent bulbs are filled with argon. This is better and the gas/pressure helps suppress filament boil-off. Anyway, sorry, I just CAN'T see any sort of useful and safe vacuum blimp. One goose bumps into the thing and it will all implode in an instant. Hmmm ... MAYbe there can be a 'gas' lighter than hydrogen - some kind of exotic matter ? Perhaps some high electrostatic charge - center electrode and envelope both negatively charged, then the vacuum would not SEEM to be a vacuum so far as the structural components are concerned. Sounds kinda sparky alas.
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Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-01 20:40 +0000
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Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:53 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:46 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-04 09:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:37 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:52 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:09 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:31 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:30 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 21:29 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:55 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:17 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:31 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-05 07:02 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-05 01:33 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-02-04 23:54 -0800
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-05 11:18 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-05 22:19 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-06 10:35 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-07 06:28 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 22:30 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-02-07 15:39 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-07 00:55 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-08 07:24 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-07 16:19 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-07 17:38 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-07 10:22 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-07 12:42 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 22:09 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-06 23:53 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 23:27 -0500
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Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 20:27 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 23:15 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:35 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-04 09:41 +0000
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Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:39 +0100
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Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-04 00:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:56 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-02-05 09:54 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-05 19:32 +0000
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Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-06 04:50 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 00:45 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-02-06 18:12 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-06 20:38 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 23:13 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-02-06 18:10 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:29 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:48 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:54 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:35 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:44 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-02 20:45 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 22:01 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 21:26 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-03 04:17 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 01:29 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-03 09:45 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 09:08 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:54 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 19:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:42 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:44 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-31 13:35 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 06:14 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-30 12:27 +0000
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