Re: Wayland Makes Progress

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject	Re: Wayland Makes Progress
Date	2026-05-16 20:24 +0000
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On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:20:29 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Tue, 12 May 2026 12:51:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> openSUSE, and previously SuSE (the non commercial versions) was always
>> "desktop agnostic".
> 
> I’m pretty sure KDE was the default in the early days. Possibly the
> default was removed when they got acquired by a Yanqui company.

The 8.1 box set had GNOME 1 although I believe the default install was 
KDE. SuSE started including GNOME around 2000 when it became available. 
Novell didn't buy SuSE until 2003.

Prior to 2000 it was KDE. The thing to remember is the GNOME project was 
started in answer to KDE because Trolltech's Qt license didn't meet the 
Stallman sniff test. CDE used Motif and that wasn't free either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Desktop_Environment_1

It's interesting KDE wanted to look like Windows 95 to ease the transition 
to Linux. GNOME wanted to look like GNOME. Nothing has changed.

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Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-09 13:55 +0000
  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-09 15:52 +0000
    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-10 13:10 +0000
      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-10 18:46 +0000
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:38 +0000
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-11 17:46 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:57 +0100
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:07 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-15 09:10 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:04 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 22:49 -0400
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:38 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:34 +0000
      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:30 +0000
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:30 +0000
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 16:56 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-11 22:38 +0200
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:25 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-12 08:02 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 02:24 -0400
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:53 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 17:09 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 17:06 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 22:54 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:39 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:58 +0100
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:03 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:54 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 15:56 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:13 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:51 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:20 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 20:24 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 22:30 -0400
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:44 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:15 +0100
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:16 +0000
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-11 23:01 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:11 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 19:58 -0700
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:53 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:56 +0200
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:44 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:49 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-12 08:06 -0700
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 10:34 +0100
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:47 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:40 +0000
  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 17:03 +0000
  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 00:33 +0000
    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-10 13:01 +0000
      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:21 +0000
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:52 +0000

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