Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Wayland Makes Progress Date: 16 May 2026 20:24:51 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <18ac73d880b9a55f$7676$2865982$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <10ticho$263lq$3@dont-email.me> <20260508151345.0000586e@gmail.com> <10tnl8b$3nr4e$3@dont-email.me> <10tr4ef$n8tt$12@dont-email.me> <10ttenh$cuv0$1@news1.tnib.de> <10u99cd$qnkq$7@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net WTqhcmHObz7aQOxQ6BlqhgTjUO25MG0yYLehOhF1BzdmEIqy54 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xLqOyt0WezUgPvxG+mFEgTgY2uI= sha256:L06eD1UgRIw2ZyDgzU3fu2C71vspcasa81iQm2Ak9cM= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:86769 On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:20:29 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2026 12:51:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> openSUSE, and previously SuSE (the non commercial versions) was always >> "desktop agnostic". > > I’m pretty sure KDE was the default in the early days. Possibly the > default was removed when they got acquired by a Yanqui company. The 8.1 box set had GNOME 1 although I believe the default install was KDE. SuSE started including GNOME around 2000 when it became available. Novell didn't buy SuSE until 2003. Prior to 2000 it was KDE. The thing to remember is the GNOME project was started in answer to KDE because Trolltech's Qt license didn't meet the Stallman sniff test. CDE used Motif and that wasn't free either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Desktop_Environment_1 It's interesting KDE wanted to look like Windows 95 to ease the transition to Linux. GNOME wanted to look like GNOME. Nothing has changed.