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On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 22:44:02 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> In North Africa, those who went to the Fez kingdom suffered all kinds of
> ill-treatment and were plundered, even by the Jews who had lived there
> for a long time. 

Yeah, well. The Ashkenazim still aren't all that comfortable around the 
Sephardim. 

> Those who fared the best were those who settled in the
> territories of the Ottoman Empire, both in North Africa and in the
> Middle East, such as in the Balkans and the Republic of Ragusa,
> after having passed by Italy. Sultan Bayezid II gave orders to welcome
> them, and exclaimed on one occasion, referring to King Ferdinand: "You
> call him king who impoverishes his states to enrich mine?" This same
> sultan commented to the ambassador sent by Carlos V who marveled that
> "the Jews had been thrown out of Castile, which was to throw away
> wealth."[99] Over the course of a few generations, the Ottoman Empire's
> cities emerged as the heart of the Sephardic world.[98]

Historically the Jews did well in the Muslim world, until the 20th century 
that is. I wonder why that is?

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