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Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE]

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.defense
Subject Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE]
Date 2025-09-10 19:09 +0000
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:06:35 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

> It's always interested me how the U.S. Mission to land Man on the Moon
> owes so much to the Germans e.g. Wernher Von Braun ....  a member of the
> Nazi Party and Allgemeine SS ...  helped design and co-developed the V-2
> rocket at Peenemünde Army Research Center during World War II. ...  and
> later a pioneer of rocket and space technology in the United States

Von Braun must have appreciated the irony. Much of his work was done at 
Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville Alabama. My brother also worked there on 
the solid fuel version of the BOMARC missile and my mother and I visited 
him in '58.

Huntsville and all of Alabama was completely segregated. There were 
colored rest rooms, colored drinking fountains, and other separate and 
unequal facilities. Unless they were domestic help shopping for a white 
family they had their own stores. The ghetto, known locally as Niggertown, 
was a must see for visitors. Political campaign speeches were mostly about 
keeping the blacks where they belonged. Conveniently, while a Jew could 
pass as white in Germany, black is black.

In the north we were much more subtle.

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Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-08 23:30 +1000
  Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 03:14 +0000
    Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:12 -0400
      Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 11:10 +0100
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-09 13:22 +0200
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 19:09 +0000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-09 14:45 -0700
            Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 20:35 -0400
              Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 07:30 +0000
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 08:02 -0400
              Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-11 00:06 +1000
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-10 08:23 -0700
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 19:09 +0000
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 15:40 -0400
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:41 +0100
            Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 19:36 +0000
              Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-10 18:17 -0700
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-10 02:33 +0000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 07:32 +0000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:53 +0100
            Re: Submarines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 11:19 +0100
              Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 12:26 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 19:39 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-10 18:23 -0700
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 21:44 -0400
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:51 +0200
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-11 07:16 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:50 +0100
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:49 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-11 17:32 +0000
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-11 18:40 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-12 03:48 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-11 21:14 -0700
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 07:23 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-12 07:11 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 06:01 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 15:37 +0100
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-12 12:50 +0200
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 09:15 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 15:44 +0100
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 11:02 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-13 07:59 +0100
                Re: Submarines Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-09-13 11:54 +0000
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-13 19:14 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-13 14:53 -0700
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 15:43 +0100
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-13 01:25 +0200
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-13 01:08 +0000
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-12 20:52 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 23:48 -0400
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-13 05:13 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 02:12 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 07:25 +0100
                Re: Submarines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-13 18:26 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-13 15:02 -0700
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-13 18:51 -0400
                Re: Submarines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-13 22:56 +0000
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 08:45 +0100
                Re: Submarines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-14 16:17 +0000
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-14 13:49 +0200
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 17:52 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 20:11 +0000
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 20:11 +0000
                Tariffs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-14 22:46 +0200
                Re: Tariffs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-14 15:28 -0700
                Re: Tariffs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 01:28 +0000
                Re: Tariffs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:16 +0100
                Re: Tariffs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-14 23:02 +0000
                Re: Tariffs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 01:12 +0000
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 08:43 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 00:11 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 02:01 -0400
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-10 22:40 +1000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 14:05 +0100
            Re: Submarines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 23:56 +0100
              Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 21:00 -0400
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:58 +0200
    Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-10 22:23 +1000

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