Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE]

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.defense
Subject	Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE]
Date	2025-09-10 09:53 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
Message-ID	<109rea9$1ilji$9@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 10/09/2025 03:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-09-09, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> The war cost somewhere between 8 and 10 million lives overall, of which
>> precisely 54,000 were in fact from the USA. Always a day late and a
>> dollar short.
> 
> More like two years late.  A lot of rednecks still believe that
> WWII started in 1941.
> 
>> Of course that was dwarfed by the 'Spanish flu', for which there was no
>> vaccine, that wiped somewhere between 17 and 100 million people out
>> worldwide.
>>
>> FAR worse than WWI.
> 
> And now the USA is getting rid of vaccines.
> 
I don't think so. There is merely a vociferous minority - equivalent to 
the one that wants to get rid of gender - that believes with no 
justification whatsoever that vaccines don't work.

Well Darwin will out. The first school that has the first case of Polio 
will all be queueing up.

And if a society allows science to be so debased that science instead of 
becoming best efforts knowledge, becomes a tool for commercial and 
political propaganda, then that society will inevitably become much 
weaker. And be overtaken by societies that are less foolish.


-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-08 23:30 +1000
  Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 03:14 +0000
    Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:12 -0400
      Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 11:10 +0100
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-09 13:22 +0200
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 19:09 +0000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-09 14:45 -0700
            Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 20:35 -0400
              Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 07:30 +0000
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 08:02 -0400
              Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-11 00:06 +1000
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-10 08:23 -0700
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 19:09 +0000
                Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 15:40 -0400
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:41 +0100
            Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 19:36 +0000
              Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-10 18:17 -0700
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-10 02:33 +0000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 07:32 +0000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:53 +0100
            Re: Submarines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 11:19 +0100
              Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 12:26 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 19:39 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-10 18:23 -0700
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 21:44 -0400
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:51 +0200
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-11 07:16 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:50 +0100
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:49 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-11 17:32 +0000
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-11 18:40 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-12 03:48 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-11 21:14 -0700
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 07:23 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-12 07:11 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 06:01 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 15:37 +0100
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-12 12:50 +0200
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 09:15 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 15:44 +0100
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 11:02 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-13 07:59 +0100
                Re: Submarines Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-09-13 11:54 +0000
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-13 19:14 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-13 14:53 -0700
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 15:43 +0100
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-13 01:25 +0200
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-13 01:08 +0000
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-12 20:52 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 23:48 -0400
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-13 05:13 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 02:12 -0400
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-12 07:25 +0100
                Re: Submarines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-13 18:26 +0000
                Re: Submarines Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-13 15:02 -0700
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-13 18:51 -0400
                Re: Submarines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-13 22:56 +0000
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 08:45 +0100
                Re: Submarines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-14 16:17 +0000
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-14 13:49 +0200
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 17:52 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 20:11 +0000
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 20:11 +0000
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                Re: Tariffs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-14 15:28 -0700
                Re: Tariffs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 01:28 +0000
                Re: Tariffs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:16 +0100
                Re: Tariffs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-14 23:02 +0000
                Re: Tariffs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 01:12 +0000
                Re: Submarines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 08:43 +0100
                Re: Submarines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 00:11 +0000
                Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-12 02:01 -0400
        Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-10 22:40 +1000
          Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 14:05 +0100
            Re: Submarines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 23:56 +0100
              Re: Submarines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-10 21:00 -0400
                Re: Submarines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-11 10:58 +0200
    Re: Submarines [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-10 22:23 +1000

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