Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs)

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs)
Date	2025-08-16 07:57 +0000
Message-ID	<mgarvmFacatU4@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 23:14:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2025-08-15 22:16, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 12:15:43 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> 
>>> I forgot to mention that the optimal solution is for the router to
>>> have its own battery. This will truly last hours. Having an UPS
>>> generating the mains AC voltage from a 12V battery, and then convert
>>> back to 12 VDC for the router, is a big waste.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, power the router via a 12 volt power supply with
>>> battery backup.
>> 
>> My Wifi router/4G modem does have its own battery and will last for
>> close to 10 hours. Last summer when the power was off for 6 days it
>> didn't help.  With my UPS I generally wait for 10 minutes before
>> powering the boxes off when the lights go out.
> 
> Wow, six days!

Very unusual. It was a derecho also very unusual for this area. Most of 
the trees are ponderosa pines which can reach over 200' high but have very 
shallow root systems so they blew over, blocking roads and taking out the 
transmission lines. One section near my house didn't have trees but the 
power poles themselves blew down in a domino effect. It was a mess to put 
it mildly.

It was summer so the temperature was no problem. I have a gas stove so 
cooking was not a problem either. I didn't have a lot in the refrigerator 
and could get ice from a store that still had power so I didn't lose 
anything.  I could have charged the Kindles from the car like I did the 
phone but I have plenty of real books to read. I got some bottled water 
since the electric well pup was down, and could get water to flush the 
toilet from an irrigation ditch or the river. It was sort of relaxing to 
tell the truth. No internet.

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