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Re: Resiliency of communication channels

From "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Resiliency of communication channels
Date 2025-08-15 12:09 +0200
Message-ID <mg8fajFs3beU5@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (17 earlier) <slrn109ql5c.28t79.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <mg5ofbFejkoU5@mid.individual.net> <107kfi2$d4vh$21@dont-email.me> <107md3h$tn2j$5@dont-email.me> <107n07f$11pib$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2025-08-15 11:55, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-08-15, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 11:59:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> In the UK fibre is powered at the far end by fully 24x7 reliable power
>>> supplies,.
>>
>> But not at your end.
> 
> If it is indeed powered on the ISP's side, that ought to mean that all
> you need is a UPS?

Yes, but you also need to maintain it.

Some UPS claim that the batteries last 4 years, but in my experience 
they last 2. There is the possibility that brand name batteries are 
actually better and last 4 years.

Many UPS don't say the status of the battery, you have to actually test 
them manually with a stop watch. They may have a display, but that one 
may be difficult to see when the UPS is out of sight. Only some UPS can 
be connected to a computer for monitoring.

My take is that most UPS overcharge the batteries. They are 
float-charging to 100%, with a constant current flow that kills gel 
filled batteries, drying them out eventually. With the old liquid filled 
batteries you'd simply replenish with distilled water once a month and 
they could last several years.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 00:55 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 10:58 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 19:36 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 01:44 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:44 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-15 18:26 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 19:58 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-15 20:57 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 08:10 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 11:14 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 04:32 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-16 22:45 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:10 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 00:53 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:56 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 00:53 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 18:00 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 03:32 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 21:10 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:29 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 18:58 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:15 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 19:02 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 21:18 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-19 14:21 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:06 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 11:08 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-16 17:04 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 23:37 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-16 00:43 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-16 00:48 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:25 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 22:51 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 20:56 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:17 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 19:25 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 19:23 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 01:38 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 08:16 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 04:43 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 22:20 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 03:09 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:22 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 20:23 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:11 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 01:07 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-15 21:17 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 02:45 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 08:42 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:55 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 07:02 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 08:30 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:56 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:53 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:49 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 06:01 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 02:35 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 11:01 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 21:39 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:41 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:58 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 21:41 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:41 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 03:05 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:26 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 20:35 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:45 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:30 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 23:46 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-16 00:43 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 08:46 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:29 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:19 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 00:19 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-15 21:36 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:39 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:36 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 20:25 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-14 15:03 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:21 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:33 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:27 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 00:51 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:21 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 20:43 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-08-14 10:02 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 16:56 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 10:20 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:30 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:07 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 21:30 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:07 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:17 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 03:32 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 04:30 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 02:57 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:10 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 20:02 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-14 13:16 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 08:29 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:08 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 00:44 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 01:51 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:24 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 04:54 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 02:56 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 13:07 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 09:21 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:53 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 22:29 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:16 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 06:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 11:05 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:03 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 20:13 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:27 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:26 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 04:57 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 01:00 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 02:32 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 09:29 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 12:40 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:00 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 21:20 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-15 15:57 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-16 00:43 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 04:56 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 03:03 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 09:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 11:39 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 11:37 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 11:31 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-16 17:04 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 19:48 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:16 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 22:19 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 09:53 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 21:35 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 04:28 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:03 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:25 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-17 15:44 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-18 05:05 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 02:34 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:51 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 09:33 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:36 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:25 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:23 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:48 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 04:22 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:15 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:15 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-17 15:32 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 04:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:02 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 00:49 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:36 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 03:06 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 10:17 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 02:31 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 11:07 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 19:56 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 00:38 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 01:00 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 06:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 11:16 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:40 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:29 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 20:05 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 11:09 +0100
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:39 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-11 22:06 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-11 23:40 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:56 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:50 +0100
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:11 +0000
                Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-13 02:11 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-13 02:59 +0000
                VoIP (was Re: Real-time OSs) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-14 03:07 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:45 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:31 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 15:15 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 17:29 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 18:38 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 17:51 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 19:14 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 18:58 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 20:36 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-13 21:30 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:55 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 00:48 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-14 11:13 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:22 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 10:49 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 10:46 +0100
                OT: far-right misinformation and propaganda, again - about the 2025 iberian blackout (was: Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 00:29 +0100
                Re: OT: far-right misinformation and propaganda, again - about the 2025 iberian blackout Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 21:04 -0700
                Re: OT: far-right misinformation and propaganda, again - about the 2025 iberian blackout "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:19 +0200
                Re: OT: far-right misinformation and propaganda, again - about the 2025 iberian blackout The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:10 +0100
                Re: OT: far-right misinformation and propaganda, again - about the 2025 iberian blackout The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:09 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 00:25 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 02:35 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-14 03:14 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-14 11:16 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:27 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:59 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 14:08 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:54 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 15:21 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:32 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 18:52 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 23:53 -0400
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 10:57 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 07:26 -0400
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:42 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 20:46 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 23:00 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 04:53 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 02:52 -0400
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 10:54 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:12 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 04:07 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 04:08 -0400
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:00 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-17 18:12 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 21:02 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 21:29 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:39 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 00:48 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 18:02 -0700
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:36 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 09:42 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 11:01 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 21:21 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:39 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:34 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 00:37 -0400
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 14:24 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:36 +0100
                Radio [Was Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 15:43 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 10:49 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 03:33 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 20:41 +0000
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 23:04 +0200
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:15 +0200
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 14:11 +0100
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 20:16 +0000
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 23:14 +0200
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 07:57 +0000
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-16 04:07 -0400
                Re: Surviving Power Failures (was Re: Real-time OSs) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:48 +0200
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-15 04:29 +0000
                Resiliency of communication channels (was: Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 10:55 +0100
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:09 +0200
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 14:08 +0100
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 20:28 +0000
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 23:20 +0200
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:55 +0200
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-19 09:51 -0700
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 21:12 +0200
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 14:06 +0100
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-15 18:26 +0000
                Re: Resiliency of communication channels The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 19:54 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:55 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 01:10 -0400
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:33 +0100
                Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-15 04:30 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 14:21 +0100

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