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Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date 2025-08-16 11:31 +0100
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 15/08/2025 22:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 13:00:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
> 
>> The thing is, that the Orange revolution was actually supported by the
>> people, CIA funded or not.
> 
> Fed enough propaganda the people will support anything. To put it into
> your context, Trump got elected twice, didn't he?
> 
>> Don't think any oil traverses Ukraine, just gas.
> 
> My bad. It wasn't a major focal point at the timme. I just remembered that
> the shrinkage tended to piss off Gazprom. Sort of embarrassing but while
> the US has plenty of gas the Jones Act makes it impossible to ship it
> between US ports and building pipelines, even in the middle of nowhere,
> triggers endless suits. During a very cold winter a few years back the New
> England states bought Russian gas, suitably passed through enough hands to
> remove the Cyrillic labeling.
> 
> The same problem is why the US is so eager for Germany to buy US LNG
> rather than the cheaper Russian gas.
> 
>   
>>> True, Russia is sensitive about the NATO expansion up to its front door
>>> but Kennedy got a little testy about the Soviets setting up house in
>>> Cuba too.
>>>
>> If Russia was sensitive about NATO it wouldn't have started a war that
>> has forced its neighbours to join NATO.
> 
> I believe you have the cart before the horse. NATO was expanding before
> the current conflict. I'd have to look up the particulars but I think it
> was the Obama administration that wanted to put missile bases in Poland to
>   'protect against the Middle Eastern threat'. Ah, Wikipedia!
> 

No. it wasn't. NATO expanded some at the downfall of the Soviet Union, 
but it was never aggressive, only defensive.

Putting missiles somewhere to defend, isn't an act of aggression.
Running your tanks down your neighbours front drive and killing their 
kids, is.


> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> United_States_missile_defense_complex_in_Poland
> 
> 
> 
>>> I'll have to admit Britain was fairly good at playing what Kipling
>>> called The Great Game. After the US inherited the space at the game
>>> board after WWII it proved to be quite inept.
>>
>> We had an education system that taught it.
>>
>> I recommend Rudyard Kipling's autobiography of his schooldays. Stalky &
>> Co, for a fairly accurate if spiced up a bit representation of the
>> flavour of those times.
>>
>> Thoroughly illiberal, but effective.
> 
> I read it several times in my youth along with 'Kim'. 'Kim' got me
> interested in eastern religions and was really about fun and games with
> Russia in Afghanistan. When the US played the game they wound up with the
> Taliban.
> 
Americans are simply not educated to have any conception of life outside 
the States.

I remember sitting in a pub having a great dinner spoilt by a US 
offiecer off the airbase being offensive towards the girl serving us and 
making statements about this 'rural shithole out in the sticks'. Less 
than 15 miles from Cambridge University, probably one of the top 
universities in the world.

The black staff off the airbase are a damn sight nicer to deal with,. 
They understand the local game, and are polite and well behaved



> 'Stalky' sort of hinted about it and CS Lewis was slightly more explicit
> in his autobiography but the British public school system seemed to teach
> faggotry along with gamesmanship.
> 

Well 'bestiality' was of course masturbation.

And yes, strong hints of monitoring too excessively intimate 
relationships between boys.

It isn't taught, but it's a result of single sex schools. And the Army 
and the Navy as well. It's always been there, its just that today its 
become *fashionable*.

"Of Vices and Rears, I have quite had my fill" Quips Jane Austen... a 
nice play on words


> 'Public school' completely confuses Americans of course. Some things don't
> translate well even in English to English.
> 
Well the first schools in  the UK  were private schools run by monasteries.

Public schools were open to anyone with money. Thay taught what rich 
people wanted their kids to learn

State schools were introduced for people without. They taught what the 
State wanted you to learn.





> 

-- 
In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone 
gets full Marx.

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