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Re: Trained For Coding Career ? FORGET IT ! "AI" Will Do It All

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Trained For Coding Career ? FORGET IT ! "AI" Will Do It All
Date 2025-08-15 06:30 +0000
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 21:15:09 -0000 (UTC), Jason H wrote:

> It's a gold rush and a bubble. It will go the same way as both. Pity,
>  really. The AI chatbots can be useful tools, but I think tech's first
>  headlong rush to AGI will end in tears.

There is a term in the AI circles, AI Winter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter

I never worked in the field but my undergraduate studies included neuro- 
physiology that people were trying to model. Then came the '70s winter. Of 
course in the '60s we were going to have natural language translation and 
master class chess programs written in FORTRAN IV any day now. That didn't 
happen either. My interest was rekindles in the '80s and I attended a 
seminar on neural networks, an update model of the ones that failed in the 
'60s. Once again over hyped and a failure to the extent that saying 
'neural network' was career death. When they surface again in the early 
2000s people preferred to talk about 'machine learning'. The neural 
network term has been rehabilitated. I once again got interested, 
particularly for the modest use in edge devices with TinyML. Those sort of 
applications show promise but they are hardly sexy, high profile, money 
sinks like LLMs.  As they said in 'Game of Thrones' winter is coming. 
Again.



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