Re: Business cultures

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Business cultures
Date	2025-02-11 22:11 +0000
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:32:00 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2025-02-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> Really? I thought it was only appropriate for sweden, but there you
>>> go.
> 
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:03:31 +0100, D wrote:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvang,_California
>>
>> Okay, so its Danish. Close enough.
> 
> Yup, 40 minutes drive from my house in Santa Barbara.

My brother lived in Lompoc so that was one of his standard places to take 
visitors.  

> Do they still do that? I remember the movie depictions of the
> "three-martini lunches" in the 1960s. Or the depiction of Charlie Wilson
> (R-TX) in "Charlie Wilson's War". But I never lived it. Except ...

I don't know. That was the machine tool industry. It wasn't the case for 
other industries I've worked in, certainly not public safety. We used to 
have an annual users get-together that floated around to areas near one or 
the other of the clients. Our sister company were doing a show in Las 
Vegas, so we held it there one year. Attendance was sparse with many of 
our clients saying no way were their departments signing off on a trip to 
Las Vegas. We held it at our shop a couple of times and the real interest 
was a trip to Yellowstone, not a strip club. The Park police at 
Yellowstone were a client so it was a good excuse to 'see their dispatch 
center' along with the bison, geysers, and so forth.

> We had a work culture where our lunch room had a fridge with cold beer,
> and a tick-off sheet to mark what you took, and we'd settle at the end
> of the month. And if you worked late, you charged your beers to the
> company. No one argued about your travel expenses. "If I ever have to
> question your expense report, that will be your last day here. If I
> can't trust you, I can't have you around." I've never seen that in
> America.

My surprise was when I went to set up equipment at Pratt & Whitney in 
Hartford. The assigned me a minder to make sure I didn't go snooping. When 
dinner time rolled around he said we had two choices. We could go to the 
management cafeteria where the pretty secretaries were or we could go to 
the workers cafeteria where we could get two beers with our meal. He was 
relieved when I chose the beer.

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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 22:41 -0500
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:40 -0500
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 11:47 +0100
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:49 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:48 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 23:03 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 16:03 -0600
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:27 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-08 19:53 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-08 22:19 +0100
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 14:23 -0700
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:40 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 22:41 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 19:11 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:04 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-11 05:18 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-10 18:31 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:55 -0800
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 01:59 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 00:23 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 06:46 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 02:04 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 19:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 20:43 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 02:49 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-11 22:50 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:28 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 12:25 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 10:16 -0800
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:40 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:50 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:24 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:35 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-13 11:22 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:08 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 18:58 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 16:56 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:22 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-12 20:20 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 17:16 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-14 05:00 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:44 -0500
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:51 +0000
    (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-08 18:57 +0000
      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-08 19:31 +0000
        Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 23:23 -0500
          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 11:45 +0100
            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:49 +0000
              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:39 +0100
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 13:21 -0600
              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-09 22:43 +0000
            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 20:56 +0000
              Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-09 22:50 +0100
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 07:50 +0000
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-10 08:35 +0000
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 12:20 +0100
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 19:02 +0000
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 12:09 +0100
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-10 18:58 +0000
                Re: (Excessive?) Complexity D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-10 22:42 +0100
          Re: (Excessive?) Complexity Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-09 11:32 +0000
            Re: (Excessive?) Complexity rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 19:43 +0000
      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-08 22:49 -0500
      Re: (Excessive?) Complexity vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:34 +0000

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