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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Date 2024-12-13 01:29 +0000
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:31:39 +0100, D wrote:

> I find Schopenhauer opaque and too negative, and way too wordy. Kant and
> Hume I never read in the original but only filtered through Coplestones
> history of philosophy and did not feel like I needed the originals.

Schopenhauer is the original Debbie Downer. In Hollingdale's introduction 
to the 'Essays and Aphorisms' selection he theorizes the philosophy 
reflects the personality which was molded by events. The family business 
went bankrupt and it was a struggle for him to get his money. However he 
was stubborn and persistent, making out better than the other creditors. 

Then there was his fling at teaching when he scheduled his class in the 
same time slot as Hegel's. Nobody came. He could have rescheduled but 
chose to resign. 

'Will' didn't fly off the shelves. His mother was an author in her own 
right. He said that his works would be around long after hers were gone. 
She replied with something like, 'Yeah the entire first edition will still 
be unsold.' They didn't get along well.

It's been years but iirc Hume's 'An Enquiry Concerning Human 
Understanding' was quite readable. His first attempt 'Treatise of Human 
Nature' was stillborn so he tried again.

Hume triggered Kant's rebuttal and Schopenhauer thought highly of him. I 
think he gets mentioned once by Nietzsche lumped with the 'English 
physiologists'. 

I don't think I made it through Copleston's entire History but I 
definitely remember the cheap paperback volumes. I did make it as far a 
Zeno, that's for sure.

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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 20:51 +0000
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    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:43 +0000
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                Re: Joy of Translation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 01:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of Translation Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-12 05:06 +0000
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        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:49 +0000
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