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Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish?

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish?
Date 2011-04-28 12:20 +0100
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goarilla wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:08:35 -0400, despen wrote:
> 
>> despen@verizon.net writes:
>>
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> despen@verizon.net wrote:
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> despen@verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>>> philo <philo@invalid.not> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/26/2011 03:43 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to make an DVD ISO of a 3.5GB mpeg.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Devedee is still going 4 hours later saying 1/4 and 100%.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at least 7 GB of mpg has built up in the temporary directory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WTF is happening? will it ever stop? where is the ISO?
>>>>>>>> I'd stop it and get rid of any temporary file created Personally I
>>>>>>>> use k3b for burning iso burning... Unfortunately  many of the
>>>>>>>> other burning apps I've tried just did not it
>>>>>>> devede creates isos, not burn them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had it take a long time but 4 hours is a lot. It does need a
>>>>>>> lot of CPU.
>>>>>> well its finished BUT it said the size would be 2.3GB. but the
>>>>>> actual ISO is 7.3GB!!! WTF is happening?
>>>>> Hard to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 8.5GB DVDs to put the file on.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's an "adjust disk usage" thing that lets you control the
>>>>> ultimate ISO file size.
>>>> The actual tunable turned out to be 'video bit rate' or something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 'adjust disk image' does nothing, it seems.
>>> I seem to remember it doing something for me. I had a file that was
>>> just over 4.7...
>>>
>>> But as long as you found a solution.
>>>
>>>> And the telltale that goes from 0-100% is valueless. It goes to 100%
>>>> about 1/4 of the way through.
>>> I'd have to look at the code, but likely the underlying library doesn't
>>> provide good numbers so they are taking a wild guess.  You could see if
>>> there's a place to file a bug report.
>> Follow up.
>>
>> Progress is calculated off file size.
>>
>> An approach that is sure to fail.
>>
> 
> out of curiousity how would you design an
> accurate progress meter ?

well you could calculate the real file size..and monitor ITS creation.

But seriously, its a hacked together gui that is pretty feature full, 
but has no sane defaults, very little explanation as to what the 
controls actually do, and a telltale that is so misleading it took me 5 
attempts before I realised the program had not in fact crashed, but was 
still grinding away..

In short I call it 'amateur' because it is designed by one knowledgeable 
person probably, to do what *he* wanted. Not as a program that would 
enable a non-knowledgeable user, to simply do what *they* wanted.

It is so similar in that respect to xsane..

Compare and contrast with gnome apps. Buggy they sometimes are, and 
feature poor maybe, but any idiot who wants to can use them.

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devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-26 21:43 +0100
  Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? philo <philo@invalid.not> - 2011-04-26 16:23 -0500
    Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-26 17:43 -0400
      Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-26 23:43 +0100
        Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-26 21:48 -0400
          Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-27 08:22 +0100
            Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? goarilla <kevin.paulus@mtm.DOTremove-thisDOT.kuleuven.DOTbe.invalid> - 2011-04-27 10:41 +0000
              Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-27 17:58 +0100
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-27 13:10 -0400
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-27 18:18 +0100
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-27 16:59 -0400
            Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-27 12:53 -0400
              Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-27 13:08 -0400
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-27 18:17 +0100
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? goarilla <kevin.paulus@mtm.DOTremove-thisDOT.kuleuven.DOTbe.invalid> - 2011-04-28 11:05 +0000
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-28 12:20 +0100
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? despen@verizon.net - 2011-04-28 09:10 -0400
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? goarilla <kevin.paulus@mtm.DOTremove-thisDOT.kuleuven.DOTbe.invalid> - 2011-04-29 08:20 +0000
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? goarilla <kevin.paulus@mtm.DOTremove-thisDOT.kuleuven.DOTbe.invalid> - 2011-04-29 08:20 +0000
                Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? Mark Hobley <markhobley@yahoo.donottypethisbit.co> - 2011-04-29 21:11 +0000
  Re: devede? is t me, or is it rubbish? Mysterious Traveler <mysterious.traveler@dot.net> - 2011-04-27 02:20 -0500

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