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Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities

Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Date	2017-03-13 04:34 -0700
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Subject	Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities
From	4891wsmith1984@gmail.com

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On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 12:46:56 AM UTC, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <02459144-925e-428b-b716-
> a5561e931e8c@googlegroups.com>, 4891wsmith1984
> @gmail.com says...
> > 
> > On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 7:43:27 PM UTC, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > On 2017-03-12 19:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > > > On 12/03/17 16:12, 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 7:43:32 PM UTC, The Natural Philosopher
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>> On 08/03/17 17:11, pureheart@pacbell.net wrote:
> > > >>>> Does anyone have any thoughts on whether Linux can actually be made
> > > >>>> secure or not in the future?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Easy. Remove all networking
> > > >>>
> > > 
> > > >>
> > > >> Even if you remove all networking, you can still be hacked into.
> > > >> Google: side channel attacks.
> > > >>
> > > > No, you cant be hacked into in the sense of gaining user or root access.
> > > > At the worst you can  have you activities monitored.
> > > 
> > > With old style CRT displays, they could be read by decoding the
> > > electromagnetic signals (interference) they emitted. I worked at a place
> > > that had wire mesh in the walls and antitempest windows to avoid just this.
> > > 
> > > Today, we may use wireless mice and keyboards. How secure are them?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Cheers,
> > >        Carlos E.R.
> > 
> > They are not secure. 
> > 
> > Also, it is possible to decipher keystrokes by differences in their audible sounds, or changes in inductance when your computer is plugged into a power socket and you type on the keyboard, and eavesdroppers are in the room next door monitoring the fluctuations in their own power sockets.
> 
> Now let's see, there's somebody who has located 
> you, broken into your house, defeated your alarm 
> planted bugs next to your computer, and done it 
> professionally enough that you don't notice, and 
> your biggest worry is _hacking_?

You make hasty assumptions. In some countries, tourists, journalists, businessmen, etc. need to stay in designated hotels for foreigners. Almost certainly the room is bugged for audio/video. If they have the capacity, they could also monitor the power sockets for keystroke logging.

 
> What are you doing that is likely to draw that 
> level of attention from cops or criminals?

See above. Sometimes just being a foreigner is enough.

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Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities pureheart@pacbell.net - 2017-03-08 09:11 -0800
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 19:43 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Mark Dixon <mnd999@hotmaill.com> - 2017-03-12 11:24 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 09:12 -0700
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 09:44 -0700
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 18:09 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 11:53 -0700
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 19:19 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 12:28 -0700
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 15:31 -0400
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:20 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 20:22 +0100
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 12:59 -0700
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:23 +0100
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2017-03-14 20:00 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-15 03:22 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 20:46 -0400
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-13 04:34 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 21:30 -0400
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-08 16:09 -0500
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 22:00 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-08 22:19 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-09 15:19 -0500
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-09 22:14 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-09 17:44 -0500
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-10 13:15 -0500
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 19:58 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-11 12:04 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-11 17:32 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 18:08 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 14:17 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2017-03-12 19:36 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 19:16 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 14:12 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Frank V <frank.vandermeiren@telenet.be> - 2017-03-12 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 15:55 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:27 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:23 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 23:33 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 15:59 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-13 04:37 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 19:12 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2017-03-12 23:39 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 19:40 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-11 10:55 -0800
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-10 21:00 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2017-03-10 16:10 -0500
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-10 21:50 +0100
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 08:08 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:55 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-11 07:22 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 07:27 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:57 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:30 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-11 12:10 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 17:35 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-11 12:40 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 18:05 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 14:12 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 19:44 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 20:45 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2017-03-11 21:08 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 21:46 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2017-03-11 21:05 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 03:56 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 20:34 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2017-03-11 12:55 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-11 10:58 -0800
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 22:45 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-11 14:46 -0800
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2017-03-12 05:10 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-12 11:11 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2017-03-11 17:16 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 14:21 -0400
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-08 22:14 +0000
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-03-08 18:03 -0500
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 23:21 +0000
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-09 02:29 +0100
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Dave <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2017-03-10 20:44 -0800
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-11 07:21 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 08:20 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 11:34 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-11 14:27 +0000
  Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities iosvanigch@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 20:12 -0800
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-08 20:24 -0800
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-09 08:11 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 14:18 -0700
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:58 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 15:25 -0700
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 23:35 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-13 00:11 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-13 01:28 +0100
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:58 +0000

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