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Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities

From	William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities
Date	2017-03-08 22:14 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<o9pvnt$mie$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2017-03-08, pureheart@pacbell.net <pureheart@pacbell.net> wrote:
> The latest release from Wikileaks apparently shows that *everything* is vulnerable to remote snooping; Windows (of course), Android, MacOS, Linux....everything (well, maybe not CP/M or BeOS or Plan9 or AmigaDOS and things like that...)
> Heretofore I had had what I guess was a false sense of security from using Linux.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on whether Linux can actually be made secure or not in the future?   I guess that once things get off one's machine onto the net all bets are off, but it would at least be nice to know that unwanted things can't get in.
>
> Anyway...bummer. Any thoughts or suggested reading?

Of course Linux can be made more secure, but never secure. There is far
far far too much code and the possibilities of a bug which would allow
people in. The NSA say has many people searching for holes while the
outside world tends not to have the same. NSA has a plit personality.
They need to protect the USA, but that means they have to hunt for
holes, and then have to decide whether to reveal them to the developers,
or keep them secret and exploit them, knowing that people like ISIS
might also exploit them. Unfortunately, they probably suffer from hubris
(america is so much better than anyone else so that while we can find
the holes, noone else possibly could do so). 
The only secure machine as smany have said is one that is unplugged,
stored off in a 10m thick steel lined concrete bunker. Unfortunately is
then not very useable by anyone. 

When is Wikileaks from. Remeber the number of Linux vulnerabilities
that have been discovered in past few years. They may well be refereing
consumer.huawei.com/us/support/index.htmto some of these, or of others
not yet discovered.
>
> Pureheart in Aptos

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Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities pureheart@pacbell.net - 2017-03-08 09:11 -0800
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 19:43 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Mark Dixon <mnd999@hotmaill.com> - 2017-03-12 11:24 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 09:12 -0700
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 09:44 -0700
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 18:09 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 11:53 -0700
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 19:19 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 12:28 -0700
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 15:31 -0400
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:20 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 20:22 +0100
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 12:59 -0700
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:23 +0100
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2017-03-14 20:00 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-15 03:22 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 20:46 -0400
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-13 04:34 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 21:30 -0400
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-08 16:09 -0500
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 22:00 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-08 22:19 +0000
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-09 15:19 -0500
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-09 22:14 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-09 17:44 -0500
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-10 13:15 -0500
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 19:58 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-11 12:04 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-11 17:32 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 18:08 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 14:17 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2017-03-12 19:36 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 19:16 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 14:12 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Frank V <frank.vandermeiren@telenet.be> - 2017-03-12 23:10 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 15:55 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:27 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:23 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 23:33 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 15:59 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities 4891wsmith1984@gmail.com - 2017-03-13 04:37 -0700
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 19:12 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2017-03-12 23:39 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 19:40 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-11 10:55 -0800
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-10 21:00 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2017-03-10 16:10 -0500
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-10 21:50 +0100
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 08:08 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:55 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-11 07:22 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 07:27 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:57 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:30 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-11 12:10 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 17:35 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-11 12:40 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 18:05 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 14:12 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 19:44 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 20:45 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2017-03-11 21:08 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2017-03-11 21:46 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2017-03-11 21:05 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 03:56 -0400
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 20:34 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2017-03-11 12:55 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-11 10:58 -0800
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-11 22:45 +0100
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-11 14:46 -0800
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2017-03-12 05:10 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-12 11:11 +0000
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2017-03-11 17:16 -0500
                Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2017-03-12 14:21 -0400
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-08 22:14 +0000
  Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-03-08 18:03 -0500
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 23:21 +0000
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-09 02:29 +0100
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Dave <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2017-03-10 20:44 -0800
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-11 07:21 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 08:20 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 11:34 +0000
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-11 14:27 +0000
  Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities iosvanigch@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 20:12 -0800
    Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-08 20:24 -0800
      Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-09 08:11 +0000
        Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 14:18 -0700
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:58 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-03-12 15:25 -0700
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-12 23:35 +0100
            Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-13 00:11 +0000
              Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-13 01:28 +0100
          Re: Wikileaks Vault7 release--Linux vulnerabilities Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 22:58 +0000

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