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Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved

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From not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
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Date 2025-08-22 09:10 +1000
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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 8/20/25 5:48 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 29 Jul 2025 09:14:02 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> Out in the cow-farms of Australia It's lucky to get any G since they
>>>> turned 3G off. 4G is bloody useless for coverage, and the telcos
>>>> just openly lie about the fact.
>>>
>>> I don't see why, if it's using the same frequency bands. Frequency is the
>>> primary determinant of physical radio signal range (given the same amount
>>> of power), after all.
>> 
>> Unfortunately anyone with the time and documents to understand
>> exactly how it all works in is the employ of a company selling 4G
>> tech, so nobody's explaining the full details. But obviously there
>> are lots of technical changes which can counter that basic
>> assumption when applied to 4G, using multiple radios/antennas,
>> error correction, whatever equates to the minimum baud rate
>> (especially for what can handle digital voice data).
>> 
>> I noticed the same when 2G was turned off reception got worse too.
>> My old 2G/3G mobile broadband modem no longer got reception except
>> near the windows in my house (granted 2G speed was slow enough that
>> I did want it near a window anyway). Phone calls still worked
>> inside on 3G though, but even against the windows is dodgy on 4G -
>> I have to go outside now (when my landline's not working). It's not
>> even as reliable as 3G for making calls outdoors.
> 
>   Every "G" uses higher freqs and tighter encoding.
> 
>   Higher freqs do NOT penetrate obstacles - even
>   just trees or little hills - as well. More
>   "RF shadows".

That was originally the case, but the Telcos in Aus introduced a
new 700MHz band before the 3G switch-off. Older devices didn't
support it, yet I checked _really_ hard through the specs for the
phones I bought and those others people I know tried that they
supported the new band. Still bloody hopeless. 3G was 850MHz, so
higher frequency, but it worked where 700MHz 4G phones (some
branded "4GX") don't! Telcos still say the problem is fixed though,
so off goes 3G and they just ignore the complaints.

Before 3G was turned off new phones would favour 4G and they were
much less reliable unless set not to use 4G at all. Telcos said the
reception on 4G would improve after 3G was turned off (with no real
explaination why). More lies, it's just as bad as before, without
the choice to turn it off.

Telcos have completely lost any grain of trust I still had in them
since all this.

>   Encoding ... 'tighter' CAN mean 'more vulnerable
>   to errors'. Just a dropped bit here and there and
>   you can't extract the real data.
> 
>   5-G is now over much of the USA.

I haven't got my hands on anything 5G yet so I haven't looked into
coverage. I did look into 5G mobiles to see if I could find one
which would be usable after the inevitable 4G turn-off. Of course
that's a separate standard to VoLTE, "VoNR" or "Vo5G", and just
like VoLTE lots of phones with 5G support _don't_ do VoNR so will
be as useless as all the 4G-but-not-VoLTE phones which went in the
bin when 3G was turned off. But the cheap "feature phones" I'm
looking at are miles away from having any sort of 5G support
anyway.

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Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 03:11 -0400
  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 12:05 +0100
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:53 -0400
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:13 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 02:34 -0400
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 20:59 +0000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:28 +0100
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:15 +0200
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:42 +0000
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:18 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 03:35 -0400
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:39 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:46 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 09:56 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:33 +0200
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:46 +0000
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-29 09:14 +1000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:41 +0000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:48 +1000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:50 -0400
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:10 +1000
  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 14:06 +0200
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-27 18:21 +0000
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 18:00 -0400
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:10 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:24 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 03:38 -0400
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:50 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:10 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:13 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:46 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:16 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:30 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:35 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 17:51 -0700
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 04:44 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:03 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:22 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:24 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:36 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:31 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:50 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-30 07:46 -0700
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:21 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:25 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:13 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 01:02 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:18 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:39 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:36 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-30 06:31 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:28 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:24 +0000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 10:16 -0700
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:35 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 20:35 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:28 +0000
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:50 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:19 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:40 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 00:56 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:21 -0400
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:17 +0000
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:26 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 15:56 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:54 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:50 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-27 17:49 +0100
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:55 -0400
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:37 -0400
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 06:34 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 03:28 -0400
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 08:36 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:29 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 04:05 -0400
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:08 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202507.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-07-29 13:45 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-30 08:59 +1000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:52 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:59 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:39 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:03 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-07-30 08:12 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:30 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:33 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 22:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:21 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:23 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:58 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:44 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:39 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:27 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:04 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:49 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:49 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:11 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 14:07 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:00 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 19:58 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 20:37 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:36 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 06:23 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 02:34 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:05 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:35 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:25 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:48 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:53 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-03 03:36 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:25 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:43 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 20:01 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:56 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:34 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-03 08:53 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 17:38 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 08:26 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 04:06 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 09:50 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:09 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 15:54 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:01 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:25 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:35 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:27 +0100
  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 08:44 -0700
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:56 +0100
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:23 +0200
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:40 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:42 +0200
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:11 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 00:09 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:07 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:55 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:25 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-01 09:09 +1000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-01 00:54 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:35 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 01:44 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:52 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:25 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:14 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 01:34 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 08:50 -0700
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:00 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 11:11 -0700
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:01 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:32 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:47 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:32 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:25 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:48 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:52 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 16:07 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:49 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:19 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:18 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:38 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:27 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 20:44 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:57 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:02 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:23 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 15:55 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 16:23 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:49 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 08:21 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 12:08 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 11:18 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:53 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 22:18 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:47 +0100

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