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Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved

From	vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved
Date	2025-07-30 08:12 +0000
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:03:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in <106b9dr$2r3s7$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 29/07/2025 19:39, Marc Haber wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> All I have is a fibre NTE box on the wall that tales power and has an
>>> Ethernet socket. It does PPPoE presentation to my ISP.
>> 
>> Likely just a media converter.
> Well I call it a modem. People leap on me and say it' just a ONT -' 
> Optical network termination'
> 
> But yes, it encrypts Ethernet packets over an optical medium,
> And the next 50km or so they are just passive optical signals.
> 
> "GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network), designated as ITU-T standard 
> G.984.2 is a medium for delivering data services (including digital TV, 
> Internet and phone services) over fibre optic cables. It's an 
> alternative to DSL and cable technologies which are the most commonly 
> used  delivery methods for Internet and triple play (TV, VoIP & 
> Internet).  Note that we're using the British spelling of fibre here - 
> in American English, it's fiber. "
> 
> Current GPON standards in use provide a data rate of 2.488Gb/s 
> downstream and 1.244Gb/s upstream. That's a fixed speed. Unlike cable 
> systems GPON's speed doesn't get lower with distance, however there are 
> maximum distances that the line can run, beyond which the signal is no 
> longer viable. You either have 100% signal at full speed, or none.  That 
> maximum is up to 20Km depending on the laser power in use however that 
> does depend on the number of splits - more on that later.  Next 
> generation GPON, known as 10G GPON or XG-PON will provide up to 10Gb/s 
> in both directions. It will use the same fibre cables so only the 
> equipment at each end will need to be replace
> 
> Then they get to a 'regional concentrator' where there is active 
> electronics.
> 
> Note that that 10Gbps is shared between other users on the fibre.  You 
> don't get it all. The premises kit restricts transmission rates to what 
> you have paid for.
>   Given that there may be up to 72 fibres in a typical bundle that's 
> 720Gbps going alone a given street or road. to a single concentrator. A 
> regional centre has much more bandwidth than that - half a dozen 
> concentrators for a rural region.
> 
> Traffic over the fibre is encrypted to your ONT
> 
>   Fiber is so new in Germany that there
>> is no universal standard yet, so ISPs try to mask that complexity away
>> by also supplying the router. Our regulator is pushing back hard to
>> allow the more savvy users to choose their own router.
>> 
> The universal standard is GPON, but of course you dont need to stick to it.
> 
> My ISP no longer supplies the rate I am on - 40/10 Mbps. I could now 
> upgrade to 100/20 for nearly the same money.
> 
> I think it amounts to a change in the ONT . Which can be done remotely
> 
>> The first and only ISP-owned Router (IAD - Integrated Access Device)
>> that I couldn't get rid of was the infamous ZyXEL "UFO" that killed
>> idle TCP sessions after ten minutes and didn't properly NAT UDP
>> streams, so neither ssh nor vpn links were stable. And the hotline was
>> like "can you access the web? Yes? Then we're doing what we told you
>> we'd do, ticket closed". Thankfully I never paid a cent for that link,
>> it wouldn't have been worth one.
>> 
> Not good.
> 
>> Greetings
>> Marc
> 
> Compared with copper fibre Just Works. And I get very good bandwidth and 
> availability. Occasionally it vanishes for a couple of seconds.. But 
> that could be some rout change in the internet at large

Finally got fiber in our neighborhood.  10Gbps symmetric.

https://ibb.co/RGCk03MN

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  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 12:05 +0100
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            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:28 +0100
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          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 09:56 +0100
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:03 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:22 +0100
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:50 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-30 07:46 -0700
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:25 +0100
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 01:02 +0100
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:36 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-30 06:31 +0000
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            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 10:16 -0700
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:35 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 20:35 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:28 +0000
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:19 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:40 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 00:56 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:21 -0400
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      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:26 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 15:56 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:54 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:50 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-27 17:49 +0100
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:55 -0400
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:37 -0400
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 06:34 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 03:28 -0400
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 08:36 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:29 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 04:05 -0400
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:08 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202507.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-07-29 13:45 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-30 08:59 +1000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:52 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:59 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:39 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:03 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-07-30 08:12 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:30 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:33 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 22:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:21 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:23 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:58 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:44 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:39 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:27 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:04 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:49 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:49 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:11 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 14:07 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:00 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 19:58 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 20:37 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:36 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 06:23 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 02:34 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:05 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:35 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:25 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:48 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:53 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-03 03:36 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:25 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:43 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 20:01 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:56 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:34 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-03 08:53 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 17:38 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 08:26 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 04:06 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 09:50 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:09 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 15:54 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:01 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:25 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:35 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:27 +0100
  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 08:44 -0700
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:56 +0100
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:23 +0200
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:40 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:42 +0200
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:11 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 00:09 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:07 +0200
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:25 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-01 09:09 +1000
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 01:34 -0400
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                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:00 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 11:11 -0700
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:01 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:32 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:47 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:32 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:25 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:48 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:52 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 16:07 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:49 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:19 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:18 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:38 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:27 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 20:44 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:57 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:02 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:23 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 15:55 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 16:23 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:49 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 08:21 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 12:08 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 11:18 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:53 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 22:18 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:47 +0100

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